"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is the Friend Zone really as bad as the don juan makes it sound???

freshprince

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is the friendzone really as bad guys..seriously?...i don't think so...you guys make it sound like if its the pit of danger or something mann...i know lots of people who started off as friends and ended up being just more...a girl told me that her boyfriend was like literally her bestfriend before it grew into something more than just friendship...some of my pals are what you would call friends with benefits...and also at my university when i waved off an acquaintance of mine who was a girl..a guy asked me who was her to me and i said simply she is just a friend and he said thats how it starts...I don't know guys maybe it depends how you look at it for me its not a big deal
nuf said...peace :rockon:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Maxtro

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For most men who are bad with women, the friendzone usually is a kiss of death.

Turning a friend into a girlfriend is usually harder than turning a girl you are somewhat acquainted with into a girlfriend.

If a guy is good with women he usually never even falls into a platonic only friendzone.

There is a thread about female friends on the first page that is worth a read.
 

GetOveIT

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either you dont understand what friendzone is or you think that somehow you can score by being her friend.

"If a guy is good with women he usually never even falls into a platonic only friendzone."

Agree
 

terran2k

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hey don't listen to what a girl tells you; she'll just tell you whatever fantasy is in her head rather than what really happened. You think that one chic's bf was running around with her shopping and listening to her talk about her man troubles? I bet if you asked him, he'd tell you differently.
 

Forty0ztoFreedom

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"Friendzone" = No sexuality, she sees you as a sweet platonic 'safe' guy

If there is always a sexuality there, flirting, teasing . . you can still be "friends" and not be in the friendzone as its described here.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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brekke

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freshprince said:
is the friendzone really as bad guys..seriously?
No, not in my opinion, but I still do not like to be friends with girls because they are annoying.

I have had a couple say crap like "we are friends" and still got with them after that. I do not think they ever really thought that we were friends though. Maybe they wanted to be. Who knows with girls. ;)
 

Kal0051

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the friendzone is only bad if your attracted to, and want to date the girl in question. If your perfectly happy just being their friend, watching them go on dates and bang tons of guys, only to be thrown away when they get a serious boyfriend then it's not a problem.
 

CuriousGirl

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There's a friendzone I think but I have fantasised about some of the guys in it. In fact, I'm skeptical about the friendzone too. I have a couple of friends that I don't think I'd have sex with (although one of them because I know he likes me alot romantically and I don't), but I also have friends I would have sex wiht but would still want to stay just friends with.
 

War Against Betaism

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I personally don't think it is as bad as people make it out to be. I have a couple of close friends that are girls. One of them I tried getting at, failure, but now she's one of my bestfriends. Now you may ask why I continue to befriend her? She's a popular girl that's always being invited to parties by all these horny guys that want to fvck her, and because I have a good relationship with her, she invites me to a lot of them. I've had a couple of hook ups cause of this. If I just completely cut off all connections with her, I would never have had these opportunities.

Though it's not as a shallow relationship as you'd think; I don't just use her for parties, that's only part of the package. She's different from other women (different not in the "omg she's the one!" sense), but she's literally the only girl that can make me laugh and is always fun to be around. Some guys forget that women are human beings too, that they can have fun too.
 

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Forty0ztoFreedom is correct. The friendzone is bad. If there is any sort of flirting going on, you're not in the friendzone and have a chance. There are traps to falling in the friendzone. Avoid these traps.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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