"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Is the Friend Zone possible after a hook up?

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Well I've posted about this girl before; we hooked up a few days before Christmas but havn't since. I'm wondering if it's possible to fall into the FZ because nothing has happened recently. I got my license now too, so I'll be able to drive over there, so it WILL happen soon; I just don't want it to be too late.

TL;DR - Can you fall into the FZ with a girl you've hooked up with because you don't hook up regularly?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

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That is a good question and something I've gone through recently as well. I hooked up with a girl in a club and number closed but I had taken her out 2 times afterwards during the day and nothing ever happened.

I guess if you guys continued to meet up and nothing happened, then you could find yourself in the friend zone.

How did I manage to break out of this with my girl? I went out with her again one day and started to test the waters. Started saying some really flirty stuff like "Do you always wear fake eye lashes or did you put them on just for me?" and just see how she responded.

I built up kino to a point where it was comfortable for me to say "Hey come on, lets go grab some crepes, I know this crazy place to go to" and I'd just grab her hand and hold hands as we walked.

It was a compliance test, I had to be making sure I was holding hands firmly like I meant it or else she will wonder whether to let go or not.

We ended up holding hands for ages. Then I sat down with her and said "Would you like to kiss me?" and I kiss closed her.

Simply put: To get the girl, you have to be willing to lose her. Take a risk man. It's worth it because it's much better to have everything/nothing than to be in the friend zone.
 
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expected it to be longer than expected (yeah I know)

F*ck

Why is this so impossible? This girl asked ME to Christmas dance, so I figured it would be so easy to game her.

After school today I called her and asked what she was doing and she told me she was studying (at school), so I said "oh fun, call me back when you're done."

She agreed, but instead of calling me she found me talking with some of her friends in the school. After they left we were alone. I don't know about you guys, but I can't see hooking up in school, it's a little weird. Anyway, I said something like "so I just got my license and I have a car, let's go to your house." I had like 2 hours before I needed to be somewhere, so I figured we could have fun at her house. Boy was I wrong.

This is were I think I messed up .. I don't even know what happen to be honest. She kept making up the most bullsh*t answers to why I couldn't come over. (examples - she just moved and said "it doesn't feel like my real home," her mom will get angry, it won't be fun, she hates being home, she loves school; sh*t like that) I told her just to tell me whatever it was and that I didn't really care. She didn't.

It ended with her saying her mom would be angry because she didn't call beforehand, and her leaving telling me I could come over "eventually."

To put it simply, I'm f*cking confused. I thought her IL was extremely high, so WTF is this? God women are hard to understand.

I really am lost here
 
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Did you even read my post dude? Take her out and do what I did.

There's a million reasons why you couldn't come over, and some of them may be real. It doesn't mean she has no interest in you. Just take her out.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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PrettyBoyA said:
Did you even read my post dude? Take her out and do what I did.

There's a million reasons why you couldn't come over, and some of them may be real. It doesn't mean she has no interest in you. Just take her out.
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Yeah I read it. I figured if she was interested at all she would have been all for me coming over, it's obvious what would have happened.

I did take a risk there, yes I know how pathetic that sounds, taking a risk being classified as telling a girl you are going to their house. That actually makes me laugh. I don't want it to seem like I'm forcing her to let me come over, which is what it is sort of happening. Whatever, I'll try again in a week or two. If it's a no, I'll move on, because obvious is always obvious.
 
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At the start, you will have show alot of male-to-female interest. That does not mean you give away your value. What it means is you have to make the first move alot of times (e.g. take her out, kino her first, kiss her first).

She is not going to be all over you. She is interested in you, she is not THAT interested in you.
 
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I only brought one girl to the house and that was during an LTR and only once.

I don't like bringing girls home to the family and don't really care to go to their house if their family is there. Even without family I didn't like going back to the house when I was in HS.

This doesn't mean she isn't interested
 
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PrettyBoyA said:
At the start, you will have show alot of male-to-female interest. That does not mean you give away your value. What it means is you have to make the first move alot of times (e.g. take her out, kino her first, kiss her first).

She is not going to be all over you. She is interested in you, she is not THAT interested in you.
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I really thought I played this one perfectly because I wasn't that interested at first, and everyone knows those are the easiest, because you truly don't care about the outcome. I've done everything up to making the first move and kissing her first, so I decided it was time to step things up and actually hook up (first one didn't count because it was short)

Thanks for your replies guys
 
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Yes, you can be in the friend zone after a hook up. In fact, it's extremely easy to fall in that zone.

Picture it like this. You just hooked up with a girl, and you feel great, on top of the world. Finally, nothing can go wrong...right?...right?

Wrong.

Some common mistakes include calling her too soon, not calling soon enough (although, in many cases they will contact you first), making a huge deal out of the hook up, askin her out too soon, not makin a move AGAIN soon enough (yes, this hurts you just as bad as not makin a move in the first place).

If she gets it in her head that you were cute, but after you hooked up you revealed you really weren't sex material, she's likely to card you forever.

After a hook up, ALWAYS make sure to get that second hook up in and then make it a regular thing BEFORE you become too comfortable.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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