"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is she using me/is it my pride/should i just get with her?

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so basically there's this girl who has denied wanting to hookup with me about 3 times over the course of a year and a half. she still stood friends with me, occasionally texted/talked to me, but it never got awkward. everytime i wanted to hookup she simply said no and denied me and had no problem talking the next day like it didnt happen. apparently she lead me on and didnt want to do anything with me at all. all of a sudden, at another party this same girl was there and there was another girl there. when i took the other girl to a room and we were about to hookup, the girl that denied me texted me, called me, and i heard from my friends, she kept looking for me. evidently, she wanted to hookup all of a sudden after denying me three times and i just couldnt say yes because of pride and not wanting to be toyed with. i think she was jealous i got with the other girl instead of her but how can she expect me too hookup with her if she denied me three times in a row? did i make the right decision?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Buddy... jealousy is the only language women understand nowadays. They think no guy is good enough for them until they see that same guy hooking up with another girl. Then all of a sudden jealousy kicks in and she wants you right then.

Well now you know what works with this girl. Girls like this must never feel that they have you. As soon as you want to be rid of this girl just tell her you love her and start acting like you have oneitis and she will disappear.

The Splacker..
 

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yea thanks alot, this is what i was thinking exactly. Its just that you feel bad when they look sad that they cant have you even though you used to like them. But i agree it is a power thing i believed it would make me look weak and make it look like she has control over me if i just succumbed to her wishes.
 

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mustang2121 said:
yea thanks alot, this is what i was thinking exactly. Its just that you feel bad when they look sad that they cant have you even though you used to like them. But i agree it is a power thing i believed it would make me look weak and make it look like she has control over me if i just succumbed to her wishes.
Feeling bad because a girl is "sad" is the archetypal beta/white knight quality. That's how women manipulate men...they make you feel guilty for supposedly making them sad. If you want to be good with women, you have to stamp this instinct out, at all costs. A "sad" woman deserves your scorn, not your sympathy.
 

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You did the right thing. She had plenty of chances with you. She declined.

Yes, she got jealous, but you don't know if she ACTUALLY would have hooked up with you. This b&tch is all talk. She can talk a good game when she's feeling jealous, but we don't know if she'd actually put out.

Remember, when you have a choice of two hookups: a sure thing and a maybe, ALWAYS take the sure thing (unless she's hideous looking).

You did well. Nothing to feel guilty about.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SgtSplacker said:
Buddy... jealousy is the only language women understand nowadays. They think no guy is good enough for them until they see that same guy hooking up with another girl. Then all of a sudden jealousy kicks in and she wants you right then.

Well now you know what works with this girl. Girls like this must never feel that they have you. As soon as you want to be rid of this girl just tell her you love her and start acting like you have oneitis and she will disappear.

The Splacker..
FVCK, I hate that this is true but it is. I met up with a girl for dinner the other night, i was hungry :p. So I came in still on a call with a friend about buisness and then I see the girl im meeting. However, I see this girl in my Bio class who was interested in me. She gives me a hug as I hang up the phone with my friend.

I sit down and the first thing out of her mouth " Wow you're a wanted guy , I like that". :woo:

Just that idea put into a real life perspective.
 

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Mauser96 said:
If she didn't want to look and feel sad, she should have jumped YOUR boner when she had a chance. She blew it.

But, maybe you will give her a chance down the road?

To be honest it just seems to risky because of the sudden sexual attraction from a weak friendship. I saw more desperation considering the phone call, and consistent seeking of me that night. Also, she tried talking to me even more when she got ahold of me and jokingly invited me back to her place. It doesnt seem genuine at all and more of a in the moment i want you right now thing.
 
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