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Yesterday I posted a thread about this girl who I made out with several times on 1st date and tried to fvck close. She won't commit to a time to meet up again and when I called again today she's going out with her friends.. Because she got annoyed with me yesterday I didn't want to press too hard so i was caught in 2 minds when I asked her 'Ok so when we meeting up again then?' her answer: 'I don't know'

I can't read this b1tch. I know I'll fvck close her next time I see her and maybe she's expecting that so won't give me a time. Now I'm at a stage where I told her to let me know when she's free and we'll meet up, but she probably wont' and I don't like those terms. If I call twice a week and try to make a date for that night is that still too desperate?

It seems I have to catch her on a night where she's not out with her friends. She's just started uni so seems to be out EVERY night..
 

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pete101 said:
It seems I have to catch her on a night where she's not out with her friends.
No you don't have to. She's just telling you that she's not that interested, in ********. You're lower in her list of priorities than her friends, so she's going out with them instead of you.

If she keeps saying no or "I don't know" to your asking her out, then she's not that interested. Stop calling her. She has your number. If she's keen, she'll find a way to let you know.

Meanwhile, date other girls.
 

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Well at this point you pretty much have no chance. Period. I've been through this many times. In my afc days I would act very desperate. Never got the girl. One time the same situation was the same as yours. She would never give me a straight answer. I would ask her out for the next day and she would always say I don't know what I'm doing yet or maybe. It would piss the hell out of me. So I would stop texting or calling her and then she would call me or text me. But once again when I ask her out she would give me some dumb answer like maybe, I don't know yet, I'll have to see what my friends are doing first. Sometimes she would actually say yes too but the day of the date she would always flaked she did this 7 times. Yes I know afc to the max. These was when I was learning to be a pua. And when she finally agreed to go out with me she acted like a total ***** was not worth it.

They only do it for attention. They are attentions *****s. Because ever time I stop contact with her she would contact me. I say next her but if you really want to get her this is what you can do stop contact with her. I guarantee you she will contact you. It might take a while for her to do it. Usually 1-3 weeks sometimes way shorter and sometimes way longer. I've had girls contact me months later. And when she does and you don't answer or text back it will drive her crazy. She will most likely contact you again. Ignore. Trust me. She will probably call or text again later on. I usually ignore again. There have been times when I have ignored them like 3 or 4 in a row. But I suggest once or twice. I usually ignore a lot more bc after a while I usually don't care at all. So after all these steps the next time she contacts you answer but keep it really short. Text short phone calls short. Talk to her on the phone for like a min and say I got to go i'll call you back and don't call back. She might call again and this time set up a date and if she still gives you that **** next her ass.

I know this sounds way planned out and a little immature bc you are playing games but honestly they are aw and they are playing games so you have to play them back. Trust me do this and you will probably reverse the situation. I've done this so many times and it works most of the time. It ends up with her bugging me to go out with her. But honestly I get tired of games so if a girl does this to me now shes next.
 

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You should also read the David DeAngelo article on playing hard to get on the front of sosuave. Heres the link http://sosuave.com/romance/david/art155.htm it's dead on. Also the tips I gave you I have given to friends with the almost identical situation and it work for them a lot of the times. So it works just trust it. If you give in and answer or call her you will lose her. Not going to lie I have gotten one girl with being needy once when I was afc. I asked her out so many times that she had no choice lol but do not do that ever. I was afc and I feel pathetic even thinking about how I used to be.
 

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The Sperminator said:
Well at this point you pretty much have no chance. Period. I've been through this many times. In my afc days I would act very desperate. Never got the girl. One time the same situation was the same as yours. She would never give me a straight answer. I would ask her out for the next day and she would always say I don't know what I'm doing yet or maybe. It would piss the hell out of me. So I would stop texting or calling her and then she would call me or text me. But once again when I ask her out she would give me some dumb answer like maybe, I don't know yet, I'll have to see what my friends are doing first. Sometimes she would actually say yes too but the day of the date she would always flaked she did this 7 times. Yes I know afc to the max. These was when I was learning to be a pua. And when she finally agreed to go out with me she acted like a total ***** was not worth it.

They only do it for attention. They are attentions *****s. Because ever time I stop contact with her she would contact me. I say next her but if you really want to get her this is what you can do stop contact with her. I guarantee you she will contact you. It might take a while for her to do it. Usually 1-3 weeks sometimes way shorter and sometimes way longer. I've had girls contact me months later. And when she does and you don't answer or text back it will drive her crazy. She will most likely contact you again. Ignore. Trust me. She will probably call or text again later on. I usually ignore again. There have been times when I have ignored them like 3 or 4 in a row. But I suggest once or twice. I usually ignore a lot more bc after a while I usually don't care at all. So after all these steps the next time she contacts you answer but keep it really short. Text short phone calls short. Talk to her on the phone for like a min and say I got to go i'll call you back and don't call back. She might call again and this time set up a date and if she still gives you that **** next her ass.

I know this sounds way planned out and a little immature bc you are playing games but honestly they are aw and they are playing games so you have to play them back. Trust me do this and you will probably reverse the situation. I've done this so many times and it works most of the time. It ends up with her bugging me to go out with her. But honestly I get tired of games so if a girl does this to me now shes next.
This is BANG ON advice Sperminator. Couldn't have said it better myself. Plus 1 rep point to you!
 

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The Sperminator said:
Well at this point you pretty much have no chance. Period. I've been through this many times. In my afc days I would act very desperate. Never got the girl. One time the same situation was the same as yours. She would never give me a straight answer. I would ask her out for the next day and she would always say I don't know what I'm doing yet or maybe. It would piss the hell out of me. So I would stop texting or calling her and then she would call me or text me. But once again when I ask her out she would give me some dumb answer like maybe, I don't know yet, I'll have to see what my friends are doing first. Sometimes she would actually say yes too but the day of the date she would always flaked she did this 7 times. Yes I know afc to the max. These was when I was learning to be a pua. And when she finally agreed to go out with me she acted like a total ***** was not worth it.

They only do it for attention. They are attentions *****s. Because ever time I stop contact with her she would contact me. I say next her but if you really want to get her this is what you can do stop contact with her. I guarantee you she will contact you. It might take a while for her to do it. Usually 1-3 weeks sometimes way shorter and sometimes way longer. I've had girls contact me months later. And when she does and you don't answer or text back it will drive her crazy. She will most likely contact you again. Ignore. Trust me. She will probably call or text again later on. I usually ignore again. There have been times when I have ignored them like 3 or 4 in a row. But I suggest once or twice. I usually ignore a lot more bc after a while I usually don't care at all. So after all these steps the next time she contacts you answer but keep it really short. Text short phone calls short. Talk to her on the phone for like a min and say I got to go i'll call you back and don't call back. She might call again and this time set up a date and if she still gives you that **** next her ass.

I know this sounds way planned out and a little immature bc you are playing games but honestly they are aw and they are playing games so you have to play them back. Trust me do this and you will probably reverse the situation. I've done this so many times and it works most of the time. It ends up with her bugging me to go out with her. But honestly I get tired of games so if a girl does this to me now shes next.
thanks great advice.

although one question.. the situations you'd been did you make out with these girls several times on the first date and almost fvck closed her?

i've gotten a lot further in a short space of time than i expected so i just assumed that it was on next time.. she's even told me 'if you want to make arrangements then maybe we shouldn't see each other anymore cos i'm just looking to have fun..' this isn't the sort of 'fun' i'm talking about.. she means dancing with her girlfriends not interested in looking for a guy.

if i walk well she won't contact me.. i don't know if it's cos she knows that next time she'll have to bang.. but it's like i almost just have to bank on a day when she's not seeing her friends then i'll get her out.. or is it if i've asked 4-5 times by then she'll have realised i am way too keen and will succumb when she gives me the go. i dont know if ignoring her will really work in this case.. or will it?
 

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Jitterbug said:
No you don't have to. She's just telling you that she's not that interested, in ********. You're lower in her list of priorities than her friends, so she's going out with them instead of you.
not necessarily. she is making excuses to get out of the sex so soon. she probabily is very interested in him but doesn't want to appear like a slut.

you cant believe how many young girls do this stupidity.

i say continue with this and invite her over nonchalantly. once she is at your hoouse, she will be down for sex once you initiate it.. =)
 
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