"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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sup guys im 26 and have been dating this 22 year old for about 7 months now and i just moved in with her last month... She works full time and comes home and never cleans the house or does the dishes.. Her mother comes over about once a week to take care of that stuff

Anyways i never knew this but i can now see her hygeine is not up to par as well.. She goes 2 to 3 days between showers sometimes.. I know WTF but i never knew she was like this because i didnt live with her.. Also every time i try to have a serious talk with her she clams up and looks away or gets mad.. She is a strong 8 and has a perfect body and pretty much has sex whenever i want it.. But i cant deal with the laziness and her not keeping her hygine up.. Told her this morning i need a woman not a girl and she needs to learn how to communicate with me when i am having a serious talk with her instead of claming up...

So whats up guys any advice/? She really is the girl i want but how do i change this stuff or should i even try...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Its not your job to fix her or any chick.

Find someone that doesn't need any fixing.

My advice...

Move out, keep boning her for as long as you can and actively search for someone that doesn't require any fixing from you and is perfect right out of the box.

Edit: Also for The Mature Man forum put your age in your profile or a mod will delete your topic and posts.
 

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Ok if shes just immature there has to be a way i can fix it... Maybe she needs me to act like a father figure and tell her what to do i duno..
Really wish there was an easy fix to shaking her up and making her snap out of it
 

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Did you notice this hygiene issue before you moved in with her?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Who's name is on the lease ?
 

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shouldn't have moved in with her. She sounds depressed to me not bipolar.
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dear 360Twisted,
No mate not bipolar,you haven't lived till you meet one of them.....just to be on the safe side do a Sherlock Holmes on the bathroom,her drawers for pills.....check the names out on the net....What a shining example this Mother gives us as to what happens when you seriously over indulge a Child...goes both ways I have a good mate,a genius of an Engineer-Inventor,at the age of 52 his doting Old Mum still comes down from Sydney 180 miles every weekend to clean his house do the washing and fill the freezer,she did this right through all his relationships....she has broken up a marriage and numerous relationships...his marriage seemed indestructable a lovely girl.....I got the impression that she actually enjoyed the holiday from the Domestics,and was able to switch off her negative feelings....... eventually Mother introduced him to a Czeck Lady,they are German Czecks themselves,and encouraged both of them to embark on an adulterous relationship...crazy Huh?
 

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360twisted said:
no i did not
So was she taking showers before you moved in with her?
 

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360twisted said:
ITs her house she is buying it why?
Because you are always free to move out. AS long as you stay you are living on her turf and it will always be HER way. YOu are a "guest" in her house unfortunately. It is her 'nest' - messy and untidy as it is.
 

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Dupe post.
 

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360twisted said:
Her mother comes over about once a week to take care of that stuff
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THis kind of parental "helping " is the sunny side of CONTROL.

Her mother is deliberately undermining her daughter's growth and maturity and independence, for mom's own agenda.
To many women, their children's autonomy is the most terrifying thing, so these women foster an incompetent dependent child - forever .

There is little that you can do to change this because both mother and daughter are getting payoffs from this arrangement. Why should they want it any other way ?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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