"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Is sex still "sacred to you"

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ok guys,

This is coming from a virgin's point of view. To a virgin like me, sex is somewhat "sacred, big deal, special" still in my head..

But to those people here who have been having sex since day 1, does it feel still feel like a "special moment" like when you first had sex, or does it feel like a regular routine per say..

I was wondering if you think women feel the same way??

Just wondering.. Thank you
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Feels fvcking great. Sex makes me horny.
 

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Nothing special about it. Pvssies and coks are neither gold plated or anything. So, it's not sacred. It's just something fun to do, and it's that way to women too, unless she is a virgin too.
 

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Have you read in the forum about not putting women on pedestals? The same goes for sex. The downfall of most men who are blind to obvious bad situations is because they make getting laid paramount to their objectives in life or how they define themselves as men.

Sure, women and sex are great but so is having a couple of beers and a whole bowl of nachos during the playoffs. Do you define yourself by how much cheese is on your nachos?
 

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Sex was never sacred to me. Just a thing to do with a woman.:D
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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There is nothing sacred about sex. It feels good and it can lead to pregnancy. A man can theoretically have sex and enjoy it with a woman he's never said a single word to.
 

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Like most things... it depends.

There are times when I've been with a girl and it's just been purely for the physical aspect of it. This is "fun" and it's good for the ego, but there's nothing sacred about it.

But when you're with someone you really care for... and this can be just cuddling and kissing... it's a TOTALLY different experience.

I have very little experience with women, I'll admit it. But I have done my share of fooling around just for fun... and to tell you the truth NONE of that was as great an experience as my first kiss with a couple of girls that I was attracted to not just physically but mentally and spiritually.

So it works both ways. You can go out and just bang someone, and that's all good... and you can have meaningful, serious, life-affirming sex too.
 

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hey verysuave,

I'm one to believe that casual sex (or promiscuous, indiscriminate sex - not sex with multiple partners) as a recreational sport is completely unnatural... it's actually not a belief, it's a fact. But man discovered a way to bypass nature's rules through highly effective contraceptives, which led to the "sexual revolution." I think used in the wrong context, it can destroy peoples' lives as I've seen a few I know are more pleasure-oriented than goal-oriented and lack a lot of self-control. It has been proven that the huge dopamine surge from constant casual sex can be addictive just as a drug, which can lead to an unbalanced lifestyle and a lesser ability to form romantic relationships... these are referred to as a "sex addicts." If you are not practicing casual sex, sex is still a very selective process as nature intended.
 

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You guys hell-bent on the "sex can be meaningful, serious, life affirming blah blah blah gag gag gag", way of thinking, i recommend you keep that to yourself in the interest of being a DJ unless you're just telling her that because she wants to hear it.

I've been married 14 years now, and I haven't had sex like that. I f*** my wife, and i also love my wife, but I've never confused the two as being the same in any way. If they were the same, then impotence or frigidity in a LTR or marriage would always mean the loss of love and separation. But we know that doesn't happen (necessarily). Did Christopher Reeves's wife stop loving him because he was paralized? No.

Most women, even the honest good ones, sometimes just want a good, meaningless f***. And they wont want some flowery man who thinks its love doing it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Maybe it depends on the feelings you have for the girl you have sex with. If you have casual sex with no feelings involved, the sex is good, satisfying, but maybe not the best thing in your life (not sacred).

On the other hand, if you have sex with a girl that you took the time to develop feelings for, and you love her, i think the sex gets more meaning and is more satisfying that just casual sex.

Sacred? I dont know... maybe the first time it feels like that... or maybe when you are with a girl who sees it as sacred and the 2 of you wait a while before having sex for the first time. That happened to me and i can say that it felt pretty special and it was unforgettable.
 

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very experience we have with a person is unique to that individual and our feelings towards bot them and the experience. Something is sacred because we have given power to its sacredness. To a catholic, the symbol of the cross is sacred. To a jew the 6-pointed star of david. To some men, the vagin4 is sacred. To others, its a lubricated glory-hole that is a fun alternative to their hand. To others, it is part of a ritual act that expresses feeling and give/take reward of pleasure. Ten thousand words can barely scratch the surface of a single encounter and what it will mean to a person. Words cannot summarize fairly sex nor will they ever be able to. But, their cheap attempts at doing so are the reason romance novels are the most popular form of literature in the US of A.
 

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azanon said:
You guys hell-bent on the "sex can be meaningful, serious, life affirming blah blah blah gag gag gag", way of thinking, i recommend you keep that to yourself in the interest of being a DJ unless you're just telling her that because she wants to hear it.

I've been married 14 years now, and I haven't had sex like that. I f*** my wife, and i also love my wife, but I've never confused the two as being the same in any way. If they were the same, then impotence or frigidity in a LTR or marriage would always mean the loss of love and separation. But we know that doesn't happen (necessarily). Did Christopher Reeves's wife stop loving him because he was paralized? No.

Most women, even the honest good ones, sometimes just want a good, meaningless f***. And they wont want some flowery man who thinks its love doing it.
Way to contradict yourself. You knock me for saying that sex "can" be meaningful... then proceed to qualify yourself with "most women" "sometimes" want a meaningless fvck.

Sure, maybe YOUR experiences with sex are totally physical... but some of mine aren't.

But just because some of sex can be "meaningful" doesn't mean it ALL has to be. There's a big stretch from "I felt something" to "we just had sex, now let's get married". Don't limit yourself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Byezbozhniy said:
Is that a metaphor?
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

For some reason I think that's funny as hell...
 

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I use to think it was sacred. Then about 2 weeks ago I lost my virginity.


In a 3some.


So no I don't think it's that sacred. Now I just want to bang alot lol
 
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New Internet Ad

I released a new Internet Ad on Relationship section of lavalife and it goes like this:

"What have YOU done with your most important gift?"

And the profile goes on to suggest that the most important gift is virginity that a girl can offer a man, otherwise she is a wh0re, and I ain't intersted in wh0res.

So far I haven't got any responses from my profile yet.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Sure, women and sex are great but so is having a couple of beers and a whole bowl of nachos during the playoffs. Do you define yourself by how much cheese is on your nachos?
I define myself by whether the girls i'm fvcking are enamored enough by me to go get me both more cheese and more nachos and another beer from the fridge and then make me meatloaf for dinner.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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