Is sex special?

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The contraception and birth control methods made the sex from one side very addicting and from another side meaningless.
Sex was serious matter before, now it is just a joke .
Sex was mostly in relationships , now it is mostly out of relationships
Sex has consequence before especially for women , now it has no consequence
Sex was main part of human life (and still ) , now sex is another entertainment product .

So if you want to understand the sex , study the culture before contraception
 

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Pandora said:
This is why sluts will often tell me "yeh i fu*ked all those guys but i choose you to be my bf". They just satiate an urge with those guys but find sustained attraction with me. They dont understand that guys dont look at it that way.
One word: ABOMINABLE. And that doesn't even do it any justice.

Thats one of THE WORSE possible insults a ho can deliver to a man. That's just flat out saying you don't deserve anything more than some pig who's orifices were beat to sh!t by a countless army of men. She's been felt up and ejaculated inside of by so many different penises she may as well be a semen depository in a public restroom. Yet at the end of the day she chose YOU to be attracted to :crackup: That must feel ssssoooooo special.

And wait it doesn't end there. Everyone else who's fvcked the **** out of her and left to never see her again are the intelligent ones. The beta who stupidly ends up with that deservingly faces a bottomless pit of hell.

You should look up microchimerism. Every man these ho's mess around with leave an imprint of male DNA inside of her forever. The old saying that every man a female sleeps with chips away at her soul (or any variation of this saying) is actually very true. I think further studies should be done on this but when it comes down to it, it's no longer THAT special now, is it?

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/the-difference-between-promiscuous-men-and-promiscuous-women/

We've had plenty of time to see the devastating effects this is having on society. Isn't it time to cut the bull**** and stop pretending that men and women are the same?
 
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evan12 said:
The contraception and birth control methods made the sex from one side very addicting and from another side meaningless.
Sex was serious matter before, now it is just a joke .
Sex was mostly in relationships , now it is mostly out of relationships
Sex has consequence before especially for women , now it has no consequence
Sex was main part of human life (and still ) , now sex is another entertainment product .

So if you want to understand the sex , study the culture before contraception
Wow Evan...lots of truth here. But not sure where you're going with the first sentence.

And as for studying the culture before the contraception, that would be very confusing here. In the rural/ subrural Midwest. In other cities I could understand. But here things are are all F'd up on that account even at my age. It's a dice roll and a prayer and good f'n luck.

good explanation anyhow.
 

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It's all in your head. It's a choice.

Love, hate, happy, sad, good day, bad day, good sex, bad sex.

We choose everything.
 

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One word: ABOMINABLEShe's been felt up and ejaculated inside of by so many different penises she may as well be a semen depository in a public restroom. Yet at the end of the day she chose YOU to be attracted to :crackup: That must feel ssssoooooo special.
It reminds me of those women who can bytch and complain for hours about all the ex's who pumped and dumped her, and then she'll say "but I really did marry the right guy". That sentence right there is all the guy gets. That becomes the only memorable thing about him; that he's right for her because he causes no emotional fluctuation. She recounts no memories about him, but is likely with him to prove to her GFs and family that she really can be with a good guy. The end outcome is that it doesn't last, or she treats him like crap for the rest of their lives.
 
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so why should any woman want you, then?

if having had a score of sex-partners makes her a "slut", what does having had a score of sex partners make YOU?
 

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only special guys can get special pvssy.. if you want special pvssy, you have to make yourself special, in ways that the gals go for. If you can't/wont do that, you'll have to settle for either no pvssy in your life, or low grade women. take your pick. Few guys can (or work at being) special.
 

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http://therationalmale.com/2013/06/26/you-need-sex/

When I first got laid in 1985, I went to the bathroom, toweled off the equipment and walked down to 7-11 for a big gulp. No blue birds landed on my shoulder to whistle Disney songs and no ray of sunlight broke through the clouds to shine on me. Nor did I think “damn, that was terrible, I’ve lost all respect for myself, I’ll never be the same again,…sob!”, it felt pretty good. The traffic lights still worked, the busses ran on time (sorta) and food still tasted good.

I’ve had sex with over 40 women since then. I got laid first when I was 17 and on average I’ve been having sex with my wife 2-3 times a week (and a hummer on her off weeks) for coming up on 17 years now. Sex is a great part of life, sometimes it’s memorable, sometimes it’s taking care of myself, but it’s never been some epic experience of cosmic importance. It keeps you healthy in body, mind and spirit, and the best I can describe sex is that it’s an important part of a balanced life experience. People have been ****ing a lot longer than anyone’s had time to contemplate the esoteric significance of sex.

I can remember listening to an episode of the Tom Leykis show when he was on terrestrial radio, and he described what sex is like for men. He said, sex is like taking a piss for a guy – sooner or later he’s got to take care of himself and let loose. Now, most guys would prefer to take a piss in a nice clean bathroom, where the towels smell good and he can feel comfortable and unhurried. Sure, he’d love to have the occasion to take a piss in the bathroom of a four star hotel with gold plated faucets and all the trimmings, but when he really has to go, he’ll stop along the side of the road or take a piss at a dirty gas station urinal. Sooner or later he’s gonna have to go.
 

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magna said:
if having had a score of sex-partners makes her a "slut", what does having had a score of sex partners make YOU?
A man with working equipment that has some level of game.

Having multiple QUALITY women makes a man a king of kings.

You're over here vehemently spewing feminist rhetoric. What does that make YOU? (Hint: it's NOT intelligent, enlightened or realistic)
 
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MidnightCity said:
it can be either. ive had both types. both types with casual partners and exclusive relationships.

some girls who i havent known for long but for whatever reason ( setting, context, ambiance, current life events) i vibed with them the sex has felt pretty special even if it was a one time thing. one girl i'll never forget was a one i met at a beach gathering in my early 20s. had crazy fun that day and we just clicked really well right off the cut. i felt young and alive with a lot to look forward to. the stroll through the boardwalk at night with the fireworks overhead and our banter you would think we'd been together forever. a friend of mine actually let us crash at his place that night and she even took the train ride back with me instead of the ride she came with. plenty of similar stories like that

same as with any LTR. ive had 2 (real) LTRs. the same girl that pushes your buttons just right that sometimes you wanna just let a quick backhand go. the girl whos made me feel pretty damn good when i felt pretty stressed and shltty at any given moment without even having mentioned anything to her. yea even after 3 or 4 years together the sex was very special even if it was routine and boring here and there. i used to have this habit of having my emotions swell up whenever one of my LTRs was peacfully asleep. for some reason i would reflect at how much of a jerk i was to her at times i would think "shes pretty damn good to me, i should really treat her better and stop taking her for granted". then shed wake up and start nagging me to take her somewhere i didnt wanna go lol

couldnt have said it better myself
 

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I tend to lean towards #2.. But.. I am a very strong believer in ground rules. If you commit to a woman and she commits to you then you don't b@ng others nor does she. On the other hand if you don't commit and both want to go have a contest to see how many you can b@ng then go for it. If you want to swing then swing.. Whatever u and her agree on with equal and honest playing field is priority #1 IMO.
 

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if you think girls are always looking specifically for some romantic type of sex you are sadly mistaken and very inexperienced.
I hear ya man. I think its scary for us guys to think that women have the capacity to just want to get plowed by random co*k. It sucks but its probably reality. I would also like to add that its probably a cultural thing too. In certain cultures this tendency for random casual sex is heavily stigmatized so the women of that culture successfully repress this urge. They repress this urge so much that it becomes internalized and they feel tremendous guilt even thinking about casual sex. When i meet these types of women it makes me think that women are not programmed to treat sex lightly. But this just may be a case of nurture over nature.

Is the sexual promiscuity of American women nature or is it nurture (cultural hypersexuality, feminism, daddy issues etc). I don't know if we will ever know the answer to that.
 

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Sex was special before the emergence of Progressive movements-- not that I'm against them, but as they come with good things they also come with the bad.

Fast-forward to the now.. Sex could be special, depending on the context.

If you want to make a girl your SO, then sex could be special.
But if you want to hit the home run and leave-- there is nothing special about that...
 

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pz_kraken said:
Sex was special before the emergence of Progressive movements-- not that I'm against them, but as they come with good things they also come with the bad.

Fast-forward to the now.. Sex could be special, depending on the context.

If you want to make a girl your SO, then sex could be special.
But if you want to hit the home run and leave-- there is nothing special about that...
yeh bro. Another poster also mentioned that progressive movements help change the way we view sex. Its like i went through my 20's trying to smash and dash and i liked meaningless sex. Now that I'm trying to settle down I'm like where are all the nice good girls who think sex is special? Its hypocritical. Ageing PUA's are starting to hate that monster that they help create.
 
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I was hanging out with some Israeli girls in Vegas the other night. Me and my friends tried to pick them up. We ended up going to a quiet bar and talking for hours. It was apparent that these girls were not open to casual sex. One had a bf back home and one had recently broken up. Their view on sexuality is that its some thing special to be shared with a guy you love. They did not want their number count to exceed more than 3. One girl said she would feel ashamed if she slept with 3 guys and didnt end up marrying them. These girls were 21 yrs old and cute. They were sexy yet modest and feminine. They were pleasant to be around and relatively intelligent. They shyed away from overly sexual conversation. One of my friends was desperately trying to get them to open up sexually. They resisted. It was a refreshing experience compared to the modern American slut.

This is when i understood how corrupted our American society is. Women are not taught that sex is an expression of a bond between 2 people. This is one of the main reasons the American female is so mentally screwed up. Promiscuity has a negative result on a persons psyche ( male or female). Even the PUA community has corrupted men. Having multiple sex partners does not lead to fulfillment. Having a meaningful relationship with one gorgeous sane chick leads to fulfillment.

In conclusion i do believe that sex is meant to be special. Acting as if sex is not special is chartering into dangerous territory. We have seen this in action ever since the feminist movement and the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Viewing sex as casual causes the decay of the nuclear family.

Almost every slut i know has had to take a "break" from sex. Sometimes they call it going celibate temporarily or having a sexual cleanse or whatever. This is because having too much casual sex is destroying their psyche. This is evidence that sex is best used as an expression of a strong bond monogamous relationship.
Even men are not made to mindlessly have casual sex:

1) You do not want to fvck old or ugly women, or basically women who are unattractive to you in general, even if you could. And even if you do, you might feel shame and regret afterward for stooping so low. If your brain was wired to just "sow your wild oats" as is said, then you would not feel any hesitation, shame or regret in who you fvck. You would be trying to fvck anything with two X chromosomes because in biological terms it costs you nothing. Yet, you don't.

2) Sex feels better with an emotional bond, as you said. This is not the case in species that are not monogamous, and do not pair bond. For those species, sex is not improved by emotion or emotional at all, just a mechanical act. Not so for humans of either gender.

3) A main reason why men may want so much casual sex is because they want to validate themselves as living up to an externally set male ideal by having it. But if you are honest with yourself, just like the female hoe, you will eventually be forced to admit that what is pleasurable is not necessarily the same as what is fulfilling, and that what is pleasurable may even cease to be so out of numbness if it is not fulfilling. But here is the thing: we are so obsessed with casual sex, because we have nothing else. Our lives/culture are so empty of anything else that mechanic hedonism and egoistic validation is all we have or could even conceive to possibly have. My acquaintance in Egypt was a virgin when he married his wife, and one might assume his wife was as well. Is he a chump? no. His life is just based on higher philosophy than mechanic hedonism and egoistic validation, at least nominally.

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And that's just the psychological. If you add the practical evolutionary pressures themselves that have shaped this you also get STDs, lack of birth control and the risk of pregnancy (this is huge for explaining emotional bonding with sex, and shows just how bizarre it is to have sex and orgasm without bonding especially for women), investing in offspring to help them survive better being a more productive strategy, the interplay between mating strategy and social cohesion which means it is not as simple as men being more successful who are inclined to fvck everything (either they can get in trouble for it, or even if they don't, their society as a whole might be weaker and displaced by a monogamously based society and thus outcompeted), and whatever else.

There are men and women for whom everything I wrote above does not apply, and they can live an alternative lifestyle. Mating strategies are different at individual levels in every species. But if you are having doubts, I think what I write makes sense.
 
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I have been thinking about the role of sex in my life recently. I have a couple questions for you guys about the nature of sex. When you talk to different people about the role of sex in life you get different viewpoints. I want to get your opinions on each of these viewpoints. I

1.) Sex is special. Sex is a sacred thing that should only be done in a committed relationship. Some people actually believe that 2 people that join sexually are transferring supernatural energy. The women/men that believe this tend to be more spiritual. They also tend to be balanced mentally. These women rarely engage in casual sex and when they do they experience guilt.

2.) Sex is a mechanical act. It holds no great significance and may be performed with people that you just kind of like. There does not have to be a deep emotional connection involved. These women are what we refer to as sluts. The men that act like this are called players. They usually have higher partner counts. Their only criterion for sexual involvement is a slight physical attraction. PUA artists are part of this camp.

When I was younger I used to exclusively be part of camp number 2. Getting laid by hot women was my ultimate goal. I was an aspiring pick up artist/player. As I got older I started to suspect that sex might be more significant that I originally thought. I started noticing that I was happier having sex in a happy monogamous relationship than I did having sex with a string of casual partners. I suspect this is why one night stand sex is often not as fulfilling as relationship sex. I also noticed that the people (male and female) that viewed sex are purely mechanical were a lot more mentally unhinged than the people that had a more special view of sex.

Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. The two points of view may not be mutually exclusive. Maybe sex can be mechanical and it can be special. Maybe it has dual functions. Pornstars often make this claim. They say they “****” their coworkers but make love to their “boyfriends/ husbands”. Promiscuous girls also make the same claim. They say they can have sex with a guy and it not be significant. But they can have sex with another their boyfriend and it’s special. What do yall think?
Read Sex at Dawn you will understand sex. In short there are very few species which engage in sex for pleasure. Two of them are Bonobon apes and Homo Sapiens. Most of animals you see do sex only for the purpose of reproduction. What is the role of pleasure inducing sex? Bonding. What is bonding? A contract that ensures male access to sex and female access to resource/sense of protection he provide. If you have ever fallen in love before remember it’s your hidden desire to have sex and yes it feels super great.
 

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Dear Pandora,
Oh there is that very human need to deify whatever seems good to them...From a long life observing others I believe sex sends a message to the Body that helps it stay young
give it up and you send a contrary message to shut down as you are past your use by date...That's today,tomorrow I might say that while giving up smoking extends your life 4.3 years,castration extends it 13.7 years...Take your pick but always have options!
 

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Dear Pandora,
Oh there is that very human need to deify whatever seems good to them...From a long life observing others I believe sex sends a message to the Body that helps it stay young
give it up and you send a contrary message to shut down as you are past your use by date...That's today,tomorrow I might say that while giving up smoking extends your life 4.3 years,castration extends it 13.7 years...Take your pick but always have options!
Sex keep your hormones and mental processes running at optimum levels.
 
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