"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Is or will your toxic ex do better in life with someone else?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
dustmuffin
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Destruction and never change.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Chev.Chelios
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I swear every hot girl has a group of orbiters who have no idea the sht she has done, iv slept with a couple girls and met they're guy friends that are trying to fck them and yup, if I told them how much of my *** has squirted on her face their reality would melt down.
"Shes really like that? Wow I thought she was such a princess.. darn it"(knife through the heart)
when I was younge I got to see alot of the truth about woman hanging out with my natural buddy drew, he was 10 years older then me.. and he took me under his wing, for reasons I don't really know why, he was the nastiest bully iv ever met.. but he fvcked a bunch on girls all the time, had a neat ride, rich millionare parents that hooked up him all the time.
Girls he hung out with would switch shades of there personality around him, used to blow me away, like there eyes and demeaner would change like a reptilian.. he did this over and over again. It wasn't any technique he was doing, just an entitled, azzhle dude..
He did, said, got away with anything he did when he attracted them.. I'd see the texts on his phone and these chicks would just throw themselves at his feet, absolutely blew my mind, these are girls I thought were normal!
So anyway.. I was a younge teenager and they'd treat me like anyone else, me being so naive I had no idea about how crafty these woman are.. the crushes and girls I was getting with would lead me on, flake,we'd talk about being together etc and here's this guy railing girls in there parents hot tubs, beach bathrooms, the back seat of his STI had some really impressive cvm stains. Some had boyfriends that were my friends! They didn't know!
Plainly put if you're in love with a woman, you're just doing what that chode Adam did in eden, eve fvcks him over.. every time. It's man's natural way, and it never has, and never will.. work.
Infern0
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Definatley agree with this, i kind of experienced both sides with my toxic ex.
Stage one i was full AFC, would you belive i actually thought for a while that she might have been a virgin. It was a combination of my brain seeing what i wanted to and her acting non sexual.
Well anyway after a few months learning game etc she was totally different with me, like unrecognizable. To the tune of losing her vibrator up her ass.
Its crazy but i have to feel for the AFC's who just dont know any better qnd are playing themselves
btownbuck2012
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Can you elaborate on this a bit? I think it would be helpful for myself and everyone else in regards to spotting red flags, etc. When you say she wasn't acting sexual, were you having sex with her at all? Were you ever initiating? Was she ever initiating? How was her performance in bed? Could you tell she was holding back on technique, dirty talk, etc.? For example were there times when she would catch herself getting too freaky and immediately pull back or was it just a total lack of frame/initiation on your part? The reason I ask is because I'm truly fascinated at some women's ability to hide who they really are and the lengths they'll go to do that.
It could just be wishful thinking that since they didn't work out with us they won't work out with someone else.
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Certain people just bring out the worst in each other.
And it's not like people don't change after a relationship ends. Hindsight allows new opportunities for introspection. Every relationship that I've been in, after it ended I tweaked my own behaviour because I didn't want to bring parts of it to another relationship. I don't think it's impossible for a chick to do the same. Though some end up worst, as do some men.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
hockeyfreak79
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She may do better in the sense for what "she" wanted out of life. Kids/family life, house with white picket fence etc. That's fine with me.
Infern0
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Yeah i had sex with her in the AFC stage but it took a long time to happen. I must add that i was a pretty bad AFC but ill put it down because maybe itll help someone.
But basically yeah i hung out with her loads and never made a move but eventually we went to the movies one night then had some drinks and one thing lead to another but yeah she acted very reserved and it was boring sex. All during that first stage she didnt act sexual at all, she was mirroring me i guess.
We only hooked up 3 times in like 3 months during that first go round. But what happened in the end she got mad at me and called me drunk saying that her flatmate had bought 2 guys home and they all had a foursome. Which was shocking to me at the time because id seen nothing to suggest she would do sonething like that.
Well after that i joined sosuave and started to just assimilate everything game related, did that for around 6 months. She eventually came back, and the first time i spoke to her on the phone i took it sexual, she drove over that night and she was down for everything, telling me she loved anal etc.
I didnt commit to her at this stage and she ended up with another AFC (the one who later killed himself) and would come and cheat on him with me, send me pics of her fingering herself saying she was thinking of me when she was having dinner with him etc. Just totally different from then on. Mond you she was denying this guy for sex saying she had stomach problems and she even showed ne the messages and would say hes so uncaring etc, then hook up with me later. It was like she actually belived her own lies which was disturbing.
As far as for red flags i cant really say, i mean i was hard AFC at the time so i think i was seeing what i wanted to at that time. I mean now id take one look at a girl like that and know shes had some serious ****, but at the time i was real naieve.
Her relationship with the guy before me was toxic she blamed him said he was abusive, he got tired of her and threw her out of the place they owned together. She had troubles with everybody, any job she was in she had people hating her, she had issues working with people, she hated people.
I don't think she will ever change she will continue on her path of destruction I'm just hoping she doesn't return to me its been 2.5 years since we've spent any time together. The best thing is to get toxic woman out of your life they are not worth the ground they walk on.
Who cares.