MatureDJ
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Is not ejaculating the ultimate neg hit?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Funny you sould post this. It's true that banging women and not coming makes them nervous. I dated a young (to me--late 20s) chick about 5 years ago and for some reason I just couldn't come with her. After about the 3rd time she said, "You better come soon, you're making me neurotic!"
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I did it last night. She sucked and f-cked for 3 hours but I didn't bust a nut because I was drinking. I don't know maybe that is why she is acting p!ssed off tonight.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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I've never really thought about it. Usually when I can't cvm, it just turns into no big deal. What that guy is doing is getting her brain working by actually talking about it. It's an interesting idea to keep the power of sex out of her hands, and I may just have to try it 
TheTraveller
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Happened to me last weekend, although it was mostly her technique that caused the no ejaculating. I was able to get her to finish but she was trying on me for hours (everything but s3x). Hilarious, really, as she appeared to be concerned when I left and now extremely eager to see me again.
Amazing thread. Hey, and if you can mentally "finish", who cares that you didn't ejaculate especially if it ignites more interest etc. This stuff works!
Amazing thread. Hey, and if you can mentally "finish", who cares that you didn't ejaculate especially if it ignites more interest etc. This stuff works!
About 2 months ago I was fvcking 3 different girls. Something very new to me, as I had always been in relationships. It got to the point where all three of them would call me at least twice a week wanting to come over.
Then a 4th girl came into the picture. By far the best looking of the group, but I was so "drained" that I didn't cvm the first time. She was EXTREMELY unhappy about it, and tried to convince me in more ways than I can describe to let her keep going. I knew it wasn't gonna work so I did exactly as that post mentioned, and just said it was no big deal and went to sleep. Next time she came over was the best sex of my life.
I am keeping this one in the arsenal!
Then a 4th girl came into the picture. By far the best looking of the group, but I was so "drained" that I didn't cvm the first time. She was EXTREMELY unhappy about it, and tried to convince me in more ways than I can describe to let her keep going. I knew it wasn't gonna work so I did exactly as that post mentioned, and just said it was no big deal and went to sleep. Next time she came over was the best sex of my life.
I am keeping this one in the arsenal!
Due to a combo of factors such as my advanced age and general angst with a new girl (especially if she's really hot), I often don't *** the first time or two. Normally she tries harder and I feel bad, like it's my issue.
So I am gonna try this tactic; just accept that it aint gonna happen, go to sleep and see how crazy I can make her.
So I am gonna try this tactic; just accept that it aint gonna happen, go to sleep and see how crazy I can make her.
Haha yes I experienced this as well; when you dont *** they work their lil butts off (pun fully intended). My FB now makes sure I ***; for the first few months with her I would only *** once and she actually asked me about it, saying do I always just *** once or is it her. Let me tell you, she made it a personal mission to get that second shot out of me and had the biggest smile of accomplishment once she did.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Scaramouche
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Dear MDJ,
I would much prefer to rarely ejaculate it maintains your energy levels,and One remains constantly horny.....However,for the Health of my Prostate I try and ejaculate at least a Dozen times a Month...What is the latest thinking on this?
I would much prefer to rarely ejaculate it maintains your energy levels,and One remains constantly horny.....However,for the Health of my Prostate I try and ejaculate at least a Dozen times a Month...What is the latest thinking on this?
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Funny you should ask. I recall going to the urological clinic at my public hospital - where I had a quite comely resident see me - and I was told to make sure to ejaculate 3 times a week. At the time I couldn't help thinking of having her help me out in this regard.Scaramouche said:
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If I don't ejaculate at least once a day, I am irritable, not concentrated and aware that I haven't ejaculated.
Although I don't believe that not coming with a woman is the "ultimate NEG", I observed that it works wonders in putting doubts into their heads.
I was on Paxil back when I just started with one, and as Paxil makes you enjoy it much more, she really has to put a lot of effort if you are going to come at all. It was funny to see her being so delighted when I used to come into 40-45 minutes of hardwork .. Good days,..
Although I don't believe that not coming with a woman is the "ultimate NEG", I observed that it works wonders in putting doubts into their heads.
I was on Paxil back when I just started with one, and as Paxil makes you enjoy it much more, she really has to put a lot of effort if you are going to come at all. It was funny to see her being so delighted when I used to come into 40-45 minutes of hardwork .. Good days,..
Scaramouche
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Dear BoilerMaker,
Yes you are talking of me 40 Years ago....So isn't it wonderful!!!you have at least four decades of thrusting ahead of you...Too good to waste on One Woman...Think about it you other Guys.
Yes you are talking of me 40 Years ago....So isn't it wonderful!!!you have at least four decades of thrusting ahead of you...Too good to waste on One Woman...Think about it you other Guys.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Boilermaker
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Dear Scara,
Thank you for the good wishes. Even my dad hasn't made it to where you've made it. Congratulations and way to go. I hope you will make another healthy two decades.
Thank you for the good wishes. Even my dad hasn't made it to where you've made it. Congratulations and way to go. I hope you will make another healthy two decades.
Happened to me a couple of times with new girls. They tried a lot harder, stayed overnight and really worked it the next morning lol
I wonder what would happen if it were your LTR. Hamster going super sonic perhaps?
I wonder what would happen if it were your LTR. Hamster going super sonic perhaps?
Scars
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I "took too long" one time while having sex, and the girl started spreading rumors that she thought I might possibly be gay.
I think this was just a lack of security on her part, and after apologizing I went on to fvck her two more times. But still. Wtf?
-Scars
I think this was just a lack of security on her part, and after apologizing I went on to fvck her two more times. But still. Wtf?
-Scars
That's actually the whole point of this. She is so not used to it, and taken back by it, that she assumed you had to be gay. I'm guessing that had never happened to her, so she freaked out that maybe she wasn't as good, or hot as she thought. It bothered her enough to start spreading a false rumor about you.Scars said:
Sh!tty she went that route with it, but I think that pretty much sums this whole idea up.
scrouds
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failScars said:
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.