Is Negging Old School?

[bigneil]

I just found this old article from 4 years ago:

"A recent phenomenon, "negging," has grown increasingly common in both young men's behavior and today's vernacular, managing to infiltrate the upper echelons of mainstream media. Negging, as defined by the oh-so-legitimate Urban Dictionary, is "a way to pick up girls" by tapping into female insecurities, employing subtle insults to debase a woman's confidence, making her more vulnerable to a man's advances. According to Neil Strauss, best-selling author of The Game, negging is the number-one most effective pick-up tactic. To flirt is to neg. Young women almost expect to be insulted by a prospective suitor and respond accordingly, feigning frustration and then peacocking around for the rest of a night in an attempt to win his attention."

Given that women now expect to be negged, isn't this tactic effectively useless? To be honest, I don't remember consciously using negging since 2004, but for those who are new to the term, I'm curious if they still think it works.

 

[zinc4]

You have to not make it obvious and more like you are sizing her up a little or questioning her value in your mind.

I will be nice, couteous, then slip in a little neg about their height if they are short like wow, how short are u?

Ok, no wonder u got heels on....usually this little comment is enough in addition to playfully mimicking their body language when they are doing a lot of hand gestures and such.

I try to tone it down as much as possible, because girls always say I tend to seem like an arrogant *******.

 

[Reykhel]

"Given that women now expect to be negged, isn't this tactic effectively useless?"

This implies that all women everywhere know what negging is and know that it is used as a tactic...

As a basic premise that would seem illogical.

I would also say that "negging" has always existed in one form or another between people. When I was growing up "taking the piss" and "bantering" were part and parcel of everyday life between friends and family. I suppose it's more ferocious in certain cultures. But can this be classed as negging...

I would also say that "negging" exists in the form of invalidation which is routinely carried out by both sexes.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ation-in-families-what-are-the-hidden-aspects

I would even go so far as to say if it was Mystery who coined the term "negging", he simply saw the power of invalidation, which they say is carried out 80% of the time subconsciously, and made a conscious tactic which was to be applied to gain compliance and as an indicator of disinterest and as a mechanism to lower her perceived value....

I think the power of the neg comes in not giving her a chance to respond to it......(i.e. calling you arrogant)...it's a subtle neg while changing the subject that leaves her with that sense of wanting to respond but not been given the chance to and now feeling.......like there's something unfinished.....

There's a time and a place for a subtle neg. A time and a place to cast your disapproval.

Constant negging would just be.......well, probably cruel and boring.

 

[bigneil]

I thought negging was based on the term neg-hit.

As far as sizing them up, or interviewing them as to whether they smoke, have tattoos, etc. that is something I do with great success. Also, being honest about whether you like their tattoos (even if you don't) seems to win points. One girl on the day we met showed me her tattoos and said she wanted to have them removed but said it would hurt. I said "You deserve it". She laughed and I ended up dating her.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Neg hits are the Yin.
Complimenting is the Yang.
It's duality.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It probably doesn't make much of a difference. She either likes you or she doesn't, mate.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

The problem with negs is that it used to be a secret way for average guys to peg a hot women. Nowadays, every guy knows what negs are and Johnny Football Star is out negging women just like the average joes. The PUA cat is out of the bag so to speak.

 

[bigneil]

Stefan Molydeax nails the science of Neg hitting here:

WARNING: Feminists will hate this because it says that men and women are not precisely identical, namely that eggs want resources and sperm wants eggs.