"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Is just looking Indian a setback in the game?

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I was born in Ireland but moved to the USA when I was six, so I am not an immigrant culturally. Now I am somewhat new to the game and have improved over the years but something that does stick to my mind at times is my ethnic appearance. Of my group of friends that I go out, I am the only guy that is not white. When I would read the ramblings on forums about being Indian or Asian, I thought they only applied to immigrants who had accents and weren't culturally American. None of what applied to them applied to me, that is what I thought.

Now like all of my friends, I get rejected too, but sometimes I wonder if the main reason might be because of the way I look. I don't have an accent and I dress like most guys at a bar but a good amount of times I get girls asking me about where I am "from". I tell them I was born in Ireland and moved to the USA but they persist and ask me things like "no but what is your race?". At that point I tell them I that I am Indian and they tell me about how they have Indian friends or knew a guy from India.

Sometimes, I do wonder why they're asking me that and if I told them I was "mixed" or something, whether or not it would make a difference. The reason I point it out is that sometimes I would have this conversation with a girl at a bar and it would die down a bit later, other times it hasn't mattered and I have managed to pull.

What I am wondering is if it would actually help if I said to a girl that I was mixed (and made up some kind of weird mix) or not?

I am playing around with this idea because I am not investing in LTRs at bars and clubs plus I am not connected at all (or even feel connected) to my Indian roots.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Doesnt matter, work with what you have. If you keep thinking about it, it will turn into an insecurity and negatively affect your game.
 

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9JuanJuan said:
OP's question/concern has me wondering now, why Indian men only date and marry within their race?
TBH, I kinda thought it was only true for my area but I used to date a girl that was white (tall and blonde too) and from the Czech Republic (she was staying in the USA for a little bit though). I specify the Czech Republic to point out that she didn't carry any of the racial biases towards my race that it seems like American women carry. What I noticed was that I was getting stared at a lot by people and when we went to NYC for a week, some people even said right to our face "you don't usually see Indian men dating interracial".
 

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9JuanJuan said:
OP's question/concern has me wondering now, why Indian men only date and marry within their race?
Tradition / Caste reasons.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Tradition / Caste reasons.
TBH, I don't think that is a major issue to most Indians that move out to the western world.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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narcissist said:
Doesnt matter, work with what you have. If you keep thinking about it, it will turn into an insecurity and negatively affect your game.
this makes so much sense now
 

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Yes, being Indian is a major setback. Everyone knows that Indians cannot reproduce.
 
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I have some "Indian" friends and they are Americanized. So they have their pick and fill of the choice. Some are even banging many club h0es. When it comes to marriage though they will usually marry an Indian. From what I seen with my eyes, if you are a cool, confident Americanized Indian male who dresses well, you can have much success with the ladies. It's not a crutch at all ,and for some women if you have the right complection it's an aphrodisiac, something they want to try.

The key is confidence in yourself, and understanding the game in your surroundings or simply understanding your own personal game, your strengths and your ability to "penetrate" the market.
 
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