"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I need some advice guys...
I've recently built up my confidence
by going to the gym, and actually believing in myself.
I find myself not wanting to give girls the time of day.
I mean if i'm doing something, why should i give her attention?

For Example:

A girl, that i kinda like, walked up to me half hour ago,
(when i was walking down to 7-E to get some midnite snax)
Anyway, she knew my name but decided to open up with:

Her - HEY!! Do you have a brother?
Me- Yea... (lying)
Her - Is his name Ryan?
Me- No [Keep walking to 7E]

Her - Ughhhhh FINE!!!

Was it wrong of me not to stand around like a chump,
anwsering stupid questions?
I hate doing that cuz i feel like such a wuss-bag.

I mean, If she had opened with:
Her - Hey Jake, Whats up? / How are you?
I would have definately talked to her, maybe even invited her over to watch a movie. ;)

I seem to only like girls that show genuine interest in me, (or maybe suave girls?)
otherwise i just act nice, and go about my things.
Also i've noticed i get called an ass-hole a lot these days by girls,
especially the ones that suck at picking me up. They seem to get really agitated. :confused:

I try to be nice to everyone, but these *****es are just pissing me off.

Am I doing anythin wrong?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You can be nice and not be a chump. DJing doesn't mean being an ass hole.

You can always turn stupid questions to your advantage. To show them girls how witty and funny you are. And if you don't want to seem too interested, you could always cut the conversation short by telling the girl that you've got to be somewhere soon.

Another thing, if you aren't bothered with the girls who suck at picking you up, then it shouldn't be a problem if they think you're an ass hole. In other words, you shouldn't be feeling pissed off.
 

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no you aint doing anything wrong, thats the way it is girls are childish and imaature no matter what society tells you. ever been in a situation were you just walked by and some girl just goes out of her way the piss you off for no reason, just because she knows she cant get you.as you keep improving your self girls will notice, the truth is they dont really have that much of a choice when it comes having a quality man and they know it but they keep pretending. there is nothing wrong with answering her question but if its gets to ridiculus(spelling) then just move the **** away you didnt spend all those time improving yourself for some ***** to play with your ego. you will always get chances like this later on, just go for the ones that give you a direct and staright foward interest.

by the way that shows that girls suck at picking up men -lol-, let them see what it feels like, im glad you ignored her.
 

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Originally posted by spider_007
NOTTING WRONG WITH A GUY WITH HIGH STANDARDS
Having high standards are fine, but one should be sure that s/he merits it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Having high standards are fine, but one should be sure that s/he merits it.
Exactly! A guy that overvalues himself will deny himself women who would make him very happy because he is "too good for them", and wonder why its only rare that the ladies he wants have a high IL in him? Then when he gets dumped for someone better, he loses all his misplaced confidence again!!
 

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Originally posted by sexual_intellectual
Exactly! A guy that overvalues himself will deny himself women who would make him very happy because he is "too good for them", and wonder why its only rare that the ladies he wants have a high IL in him? Then when he gets dumped for someone better, he loses all his misplaced confidence again!!
Well put.
 

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...and wonder why its only rare that the ladies he wants have a high IL in him? Then when he gets dumped for someone better, he loses all his misplaced confidence again!
Thanks dudes... that about summarizes my entire life: "Misplaced Confidence"

I've always been confident, (i've been called ****y numerous times) but it seemed that it all came from was my good looks, or girls trying to hit on me.

So you're saying, that i should just chill on the ego-trip a bit?

Also,
ever been in a situation were you just walked by and some girl just goes out of her way the piss you off for no reason, just because she knows she cant get you.
I've gotten this quite a lot... especially when i try to use C&F, girls just go psycho on me.
 

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You shouldn't OVER value yourself. You should value yourself right about where your value is.

So this girl that you like initiated a conversation, and you acted like a douche? I just don't get it. Why? I'm not saying you have to supplicate to her, but at least try to keep the convo going for a few minutes, and then get her number. The result would probably be a lot more favorable than making her think you're an *******.
 

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Her - HEY!! Do you have a brother?
Me- Yea... (lying)
Her - Is his name Ryan?
Me- No [Keep walking to 7E]
Her - Ughhhhh FINE!!!

She's immature and only worth a good bone, simply by her response. However...

Picture it this way - If someone did that to you what would you think about them?

She wasn't acting anymore childish than you were in my opinion. You completely rejected her, and in a pretty harsh way, when she was trying to get a converastion going. She probably didn't have anything else to say or couldn't think of another converation starter. So when you said "No" and walked away that meant "get out of my face I don't want to talk to your dumbass" and she was frustrated that she didn't get what she wanted so she replied with her emotional default which was "uhhhh fiiiine"

lol

She didn't get what she wanted to she either A. Still wants to talk to you or B. Thinks you're an ******* and wont talk to you anymore.

Since she seems immature I think it's A.

Personally, next time you see her I'd walk up and say "Yo, I was in a serious rush the other day, what's kickin girly?" and no that's not making a stupid excuse for youself, in this situation it's saying "No I'm not really an *******, you just interpreted it all wrong(hah), so lets get this chat thing rolling with so we can do the nasty.

That's my 2 cents.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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"I find myself not wanting to give girls the time of day.
I mean if i'm doing something, why should i give her attention?"


That's not confidence. That's your ego that happens to be out of control. Trust me. When a group of girls shoots you down, that 'confidence' that you all of a sudden 'got' from lifting weights will dissolve. That's how you know it's not really confidence and just you trying to blow smoke up your a$$. You gain confidence from examining what you perceived WRONG with yourself to begin with, and realizing how silly and invalid your reasons are for feeling that way. It's a slow process. Not supressing your insecurities and burying them with muscles.

"Was it wrong of me not to stand around like a chump,
anwsering stupid questions?
I hate doing that cuz i feel like such a wuss-bag."


What is so "chump" about answering questions? She didn't ask you to cook her dinner. She had a question and was hoping you'd be able to answer. How does this make you feel like a wuss? Cracks me up because the same people that come up with THIS bullshyt are the same guys that post about the "*****es" that ignored them when they approached.

"I mean, If she had opened with:
Her - Hey Jake, Whats up? / How are you?
I would have definately talked to her, maybe even invited her over to watch a movie."


So it's NOT wuss to answer: What's up? But it IS wuss to answer another question? In fact the question she asked mattered SO much that it made the difference between you acting like a total a$$ by blowing her off, and taking her home to watch a movie? Amazing. Are you really listening to yourself?

"I try to be nice to everyone, but these *****es are just pissing me off.

Am I doing anythin wrong?"


I don't even know where to start. Ok, do this: Grab your neck with both hands and rip your head out of your a$$. It's easier to read the bible that way.

-Blitz
 

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so lemme get this straight. A girl you like opened you and because she didnt initiate in a way you like she is not up to your standards? WTF? Would u prefer if she didnt speak to you at all?
 

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are you happy ?

if you are happy man forget about it.

you like having a big ego ? i say to hell with everyone else just as long as its what you want.

bend them ( the chicks ) to fit your reality i say

its your time. you dont feel like giving 30 minutes for some chick to babble on with bulls**t and play games ? is that a crime ?

and if you did want her then you have to take control of the conversation and steer it in a direction you feel comfortable with

and all these chicks calling you an a$$h*le means they want you bad and see how they get upset cause you play it cool

you are in control and in a world of lesser men you make them realise YOU ARE THE PRIZE and they want you more



Lost In Translation :D

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“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “
 

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Ok, i think SOME of you guys got me all wrong...
I wasn't trying to be mean or anything.
I just realized that this was another one of her stupid mind games... probably to make me jelous. (she's very immature)
I anwsered politely "No, I don't" (which is the truth) and kept on my way.


I'm just sick of girls who seems to want to control my actions,
and when i don't do what they expect me to do (fall prey to their little mind games) they get mad.

Here's a visual for you:

Girl- "I'm so hot, and i know all these guys,
do you want to hear about my guyfriends and give me attention?"
Me- [yea right...missy]

Me-->:) :cheer:<-- Girl

Me-->:rolleyes: :cuss:<-- Girl


Is it just me, or are all girls jelous control freaks?
I don't have the same problem with my guy friends,
mostly because they're completely SANE and not attention seeking vampires
that drain you of all your confidence.

Isn't the whole idea of being a Don Juan, as opposed to a sum AFC tool, is to do what you want and what makes you happy?
Why should i stand around while some girl blabs to me about crap i don't care about just so she can feel better?
Besides, i'm busy i have stuff to do!!


Please i beg you, give me one good f\/cking reason why i should do that!!

Ohh i know, i get the "Privalege of being in her presence"
LUCKY ME!! :rolleyes:

Theres plenty of other girls that are mature enough to just say Hi, and start a normal conversation.
You know... one where two people pretend to be interested in each other?
Not one where i stand around listening to her blab about how many guys she knows.

I am Happy, I am confident, I have high standards, and I don't give a F\/ck.

Thanx Lost in Translation, and others who didn't bash me for having high standards.


Some of you others, sound like a bunch groupies from girlproblems.com :
"It's a privalage to have a girl talk to you..."
Puhhhh-lease, Grow Some Balls you puzzies!

If a girl likes you she won't make you listen to crap about her, only shallow girls do that. A good girl will want to know about you!!
 

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maybe this will help you bro ?

The DJ Code :

1. his pleasure comes first
2. he will quickly dump a woman who gives him trouble
3. doesn’t suck up to women or put them on pedestals
4. doesn’t let women or people disrespect him.
5. Gets pissed off and isn’t afraid to show it
6. Aren’t afraid to hurt women emotionally.
7. Doesn’t care what others think about him and isn’t looking for approval.



Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

Quote: Don Juanabbe
“ What are you Vanilla-bloody-Ice? “

Quote: Player_Supreme
“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “

Quote: Player_Supreme
“I've taken a fat chick and put her on a diet and training program and created my own super ho. “

Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “

Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“ the 'pimp' mentality works today because you are living in a time such that there are an overabundance if hors - this is the Pimps playground!! Pimps and hors go together like bread and butter - they are complementary natures!!! Pimps need hors like hors need pimps!! “

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“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Originally posted by Jake-inator
Ok, i think SOME of you guys got me all wrong...
I wasn't trying to be mean or anything.
I just realized that this was another one of her stupid mind games... probably to make me jelous. (she's very immature)
I anwsered politely "No, I don't" (which is the truth) and kept on my way.


I'm just sick of girls who seems to want to control my actions,
and when i don't do what they expect me to do (fall prey to their little mind games) they get mad.

Here's a visual for you:

Girl- "I'm so hot, and i know all these guys,
do you want to hear about my guyfriends and give me attention?"
Me- [yea right...missy]

Me-->:) :cheer:<-- Girl

Me-->:rolleyes: :cuss:<-- Girl


Is it just me, or are all girls jelous control freaks?
I don't have the same problem with my guy friends,
mostly because they're completely SANE and not attention seeking vampires
that drain you of all your confidence.

Isn't the whole idea of being a Don Juan, as opposed to a sum AFC tool, is to do what you want and what makes you happy?
Why should i stand around while some girl blabs to me about crap i don't care about just so she can feel better?
Besides, i'm busy i have stuff to do!!


Please i beg you, give me one good f\/cking reason why i should do that!!

Ohh i know, i get the "Privalege of being in her presence"
LUCKY ME!! :rolleyes:

Theres plenty of other girls that are mature enough to just say Hi, and start a normal conversation.
You know... one where two people pretend to be interested in each other?
Not one where i stand around listening to her blab about how many guys she knows.

I am Happy, I am confident, I have high standards, and I don't give a F\/ck.

Thanx Lost in Translation, and others who didn't bash me for having high standards.


Some of you others, sound like a bunch groupies from girlproblems.com :
"It's a privalage to have a girl talk to you..."
Puhhhh-lease, Grow Some Balls you puzzies!

If a girl likes you she won't make you listen to crap about her, only shallow girls do that. A good girl will want to know about you!!
Okay now that you mentioned that it makes a big difference. I think by default, the people responding telling you that you were mean or being an a$$hole assumed this was some perfectly "normal", "innocent" girl asking you an honest question. If this was a girl who has been playing the AW card on you all the time, then hell yeah blow her off.

If a girl starts talking to me about her boyfriend, ex-byfriends, or current "guyfriends", then I'll either change the subject or just ignore her and walk away some where. Girls who do that are just a waste of time. Continuing will only put you deeper in a friends zone state anyways if you are interested.
 

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Originally posted by Jake-inator
For Example:

A girl, that i kinda like, walked up to me half hour ago,
(when i was walking down to 7-E to get some midnite snax)
Anyway, she knew my name but decided to open up with:

Her - HEY!! Do you have a brother?
Me- Yea... (lying)
Her - Is his name Ryan?
Me- No [Keep walking to 7E]

Her - Ughhhhh FINE!!!

Was it wrong of me not to stand around like a chump,
anwsering stupid questions?
I hate doing that cuz i feel like such a wuss-bag.
Sure it's not your job to understand women, but you went about this all wrong. you liked the girl, yet rejected her pursuit thanks to her line opener which you misinterpreted.

When it comes down to courting, girls arent as swift as guys to come up with something quick that's smart simultaneously. you know she was interested in you after what happened...but hey give her a break, she was trying her best.

you dont necessairly have to stand a long time and chat iwth her, and there's nothing chumpish about it. you couldve avoided this and went another route with some fluff talk or small chat, then say you've gotta get going...# close etc. or you couldve just said you wre going to 7-E for snacks, and asked if she wanted to come along, hell after that you couldve even invited her over to watch a movie as you had planned.

now you'll never know, just stay on the lookout for future opportunities like this again.
 
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