"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is it too late?

tbstimber12

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So here's my situation:

There's this hot girl who I've known for about 2 monthes. Our relationship has been a one of friendship because I was involved with some of her friends, and vice-versa. Now the time has come where we're both available, and I'm finding it hard to getting over our previous relationship as friends. (It's been about two weeks...I see her once or twice a week).

Like I said we already know each other pretty well as friends but now I'm ready to step it up here. Is it too late? I don't wanna get trapped in the friendzone but she's one of those girls who has every guy wanting to f*** her.

How would you handle it??

Thanks
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mellow

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Ask her out?

If she says yes, then good for you.

If she says no, then you wont be stuck in the friends-zone, and you can move on.

Simple eh?
 

Fash

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tbstimber12 said:
Like I said we already know each other pretty well as friends but now I'm ready to step it up here. Is it too late? I don't wanna get trapped in the friendzone but she's one of those girls who has every guy wanting to f*** her.
Firstly, any girl that is even remotely attractive will have most guys who meet her watching to f*ck her. So nothing different about this chick there...

With regards to whether or not you are in the LJBF zone, there is only one way to find out.

Ask your self this... do you really NEED her to be your friend? Just go for it.

You've been a member since Dec 04, and you've only made 7 posts. Now I dont know whether you have spent this whole time just reading stuff but if you actually spend some more time on here, reading the bible you'll be able to slowly turn things around and keep your self away from the LJBF zone.
 

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If you want to be his girlfriend keep yourself there.

If you want to f*ck her, get physical with her, ask her over, touch, flirt, etc. --> make her know you want to **** her.
 

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It's hard to get a girl interested in you romantically, after being 'friends', but it is possible (i've done it a couple of times).

The first thing you need to do is get her Interest Level UP, get her to notice you ($exually). Be confident, cool, funny, challenging and flirty.

Girls know that every guy is out to Fvck them, but if you have never given off this vibe to her, you may have an advantage because it will be unexpected coming from you (thus, spark her interest a little). Know what I mean?

Take advantage bro, play it cool and watch how she responds.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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