"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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is it sometimes worth the time?

christz

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To invest time in a girl that is in an LTR that was serious but has fizzled down to almost nothing?

i mean say a girl is in an LTR she has spent a lot of time in this LTR but most of the time spent was during her teen years. She is 20 now. i can tell she's looking for a way out but her secruity and comfort zone are so close together she may feel uneasy to leave her LTR for a new person to want to invest that time again. so ultiamatly she convinces herself to stay in a relationship she dislikes which results in her cheating or stringing along other guys. (whcih she has done)

is it ever worth the wait?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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LTR's that started from teenhood sometimes might stop in the early 20s because the real growing up happens during the 20s (college, maturity, etc) You bet it's worth your time, if it ends, it ends. If you choose to marry in your early 20s with the same LTR, but the girl starts wising up and wonders.. "Wow 3-5 years later.. and he hasn't truly committed to me.. ie marriage.. I'm still young so I'm going to dump him"
 

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Teenagers are too young to be involved in LTR. I dont consider relationships in the teen years real relationships.
The people involved are too young to know 'true love' from an intense infatuation from the first person to be intimate with.

A girl that is 20 in my opinion is hardly a seasoned veteran when it comes to dating. They may be experienced with some things, but its not some worldly experience that is hard to overcome.

So, spend time with her and see how it goes.
Everyone gets to wrapped up in the 'future' take each date by each date instead of thinking years down the line.

What if we told you to never see her again, because she had a "long term relationship" as a teen. Would you actually listen to that advice?


Just go out and have fun, and the rest will take care of itself. You arent buying a house, a car, or anything real permanent.

Why would you wait for a girl?
Date others while she is confused.
Date others and keep in touch with her, that way your not just sitting on your duff doing nothing.

Dont wait on her, that is just lame. Find other girls, date them and if things change with this girl then you can move in. In the meantime, go out and enjoy yourself (and others).
And if you think finding a girl would hurt your chances, then what the hell is she doing? SHe is sexing some guy while you wait for your shot? HAHA. thats funny.

SHe is already dating, whether its genuine or not, so you should do the same. Its only fair. And for cryin out loud, its only HEALTHY. Anything else is desperate and kind of saddening.
 

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funny part is i've had her on more than once occasion but sex isn't enough for me

so now i sit on the sidelines not fu*king her waiting for them to dissolve like they have before in the past.

that whole maroon 5 song "she will be loved" makes total sense now that i think about it. and i actually wondered what the hell that song was about.

and your right waiting for an oppertunity to happen will drive me insane so of course i'm talking to other women. But even so i can't shake the feeling i have for this one as much as i tried.

but i'll take it day by day and see where things go.. But i know situations like this take a long time to come around. however she started their relationship when she was 16 1/2 maybe 17 so yeah, i know for a fact this is the first guy she's dated longer than 5 months and probably the first guy she's "loved"
 

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you dont wanna look AFC otherwise your ****ed man, that will hurt you even more so dont grope!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by Fenderules
you dont wanna look AFC otherwise your ****ed man, that will hurt you even more so dont grope!
i been playing ganji on her and it seems to work, however i think it worked to well and when she started to come back and we started to click again instantly and the fire came back she withdrew herself almost instantly just as she has in the past.

its like she wants to break free but is scared to do so, she's commented on how many girls i get attention from, she's checked my phone once or twice. I honestly think i intimidate her on a relationship level.

like she's used to push over chumps that will pretty much shyt when told.

my only refuge in this whole situation, is that she HAS broken up with this guy for another dude, but he went total chump on her AFC style and she broke up with him and went back with the guy she's with now.

that there tells me she will take the chance, but only for the right person at the right time.
 

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Originally posted by SmartOne
marriage isnt for anyone until their at least 26-7my opinion. i dont think anyone should consider a serious LTR until there about 24 - 25 ...because marriage before that is just stupid...... it depends on how attached you are to this girl. it sounds like it wouldnt be a big deal if you two split after all these years, which would certainly mean shes not "the one"
lol did you read the post? this isn't about me this is about a girl that i like and want to be with knowing that it can be the best relationship i've had in a while that is currently in an LTR which is fizzling rapidly.

she cheats on him on a whim and if you spoke to her without knowing her, you'd never think she had a b/f however the difference between me and the other guys she's cheated on with

the rest have been tossed away like a dirty rag but she keeps me around, for reasons i'm aware but like i started to say.. is it sometimes worth the time.

we have a solid connection that is undenyable and we have almsot everything in common. she can ignore it, i can't however i refuse to be sucked into a game where i'm being strung along so i'm sorta just sitting back and waiting for them to break up.. which i know at one point is inevitable
 
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