"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is it really possible is ONE interaction goes any bit sour its over? Help..

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I mean ive been dating this girl for 6 months but a minor feeling inside maybe thinks this one night might of ruined it? I wouldnt know how or understand why it wouldnt make sense. I accidently came out complained about sex I wanted to have it more then once a night like few times i tried to be spontaneous she stopped me and wanted to be on phone i try to mess with her and she gets mad wants me to go shes on phone (ive seen guys mess with girls on phone before and its fine) So this is kind of weird. She isnt a prude or anything but she wants things on her terms. We had a little argument about it she said she needs to wind down at night because of work and stuff I just said alright thats fine I said i feel like I want sophisticated girl but I want her to be a slut behind closed doors. When we had sex that night it was a little off she wanted me to talk dirty and I just didnt feel like it so I dont know why? she cancelled date on friday night I just said ok and I told her today I want to meetup on saturday before my show im in her area she hasn't replied. ADVICE?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Also she told me she doesnt want relationship at moment vecausr of our situations which i am cool with.
 
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That her being in control thing sucks. Some of em do it, it could be how she is or it could be some pecking order bs. I wouldnt talk to her too much and keep it framed around having sex.
 

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Anyone getting annoyed by wolf's thread is a beta.


Answer to the OPs : No, if she does like you enough.
 
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Thanks we'll i should hear back from her then we have sex every time we meet up i cant see why it would ruin. What if she doesnt reply to my text? Try tomorrow if no reply move on?? i kinda want an answer TBH if she doesnt want to anymore what do u guys do?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Don't send any more text unless she replies, which obviously she will...if not screw her...I've been in a similar situation where the girl controlled things through sex...and padt one time a night was difficult which is weird looking back...

her il isnt that high unfortunately... But at least sje wanted u to talk dirty..should have tried her to the bed and ****ed her and *** all over face and then begin to withdraw attention after that...


She probably has some ex she never completely got over or some other guy guys....either way....do you really want a relationship like this even a fwb?.......I know your feeling man...but damn that will chip away at your pride and self respect.... Go focus on ones that will do anything to keep u...this one right now won't...unless maybe you can successfully reframe the situation which would be difficult to say the least...
 
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I dont know she cancelled last weeks date now this saturday says shes with niece and nephew during day cant meetup anyone think she might try to avoid me now?
 
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thelonewolflegend said:
I dont know she cancelled last weeks date now this saturday says shes with niece and nephew during day cant meetup anyone think she might try to avoid me now?
That's what it sounds like. Back off and play with another friend for a while. Don't be mad, sometimes this is what people do. And if she told you she doesn't want to end up serious, perhaps this is her trying to enforce it.
 

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thelonewolflegend said:
I mean ive been dating this girl for 6 months but a minor feeling inside maybe thinks this one night might of ruined it? I wouldnt know how or understand why it wouldnt make sense. I accidently came out complained about sex I wanted to have it more then once a night like few times i tried to be spontaneous she stopped me and wanted to be on phone i try to mess with her and she gets mad wants me to go shes on phone (ive seen guys mess with girls on phone before and its fine) So this is kind of weird. She isnt a prude or anything but she wants things on her terms. We had a little argument about it she said she needs to wind down at night because of work and stuff I just said alright thats fine I said i feel like I want sophisticated girl but I want her to be a slut behind closed doors. When we had sex that night it was a little off she wanted me to talk dirty and I just didnt feel like it so I dont know why? she cancelled date on friday night I just said ok and I told her today I want to meetup on saturday before my show im in her area she hasn't replied. ADVICE?
I don't really care about the nonsense interaction before the bolded, which was just you feeding into drama queen bs rather than deflecting it like you should have... but here we go AGAIN with the overpersuing. She cancels your date, "cool well let me know when you are free to get together" then you NEVER text her again unless she texts you. You of course messed this up asking to see her. weak.

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Also she told me she doesnt want relationship at moment vecausr of our situations which i am cool with.
Why are you talking about a relationship? The fact she had to tell you she doesn't want one means you asked her about it. Weak, and also no you aren't cool with it which is why you posted about it.

Sort your head out or it's over.

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I dont know she cancelled last weeks date now this saturday says shes with niece and nephew during day cant meetup anyone think she might try to avoid me now?
Yeah, she's dodging your weak ass. Back the **** off man, WAIT TO HEAR FROM HER, WAIT FOR HER TO ASK TO GET TOGETHER and stop acting like such a nuerotic weak *****
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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One thing I have noticed since starting to follow the advice from this website, the texting sparingly angle seems to weed out the control freaks early on.
 

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crgideon said:
One thing I have noticed since starting to follow the advice from this website, the texting sparingly angle seems to weed out the control freaks early on.
Yes and no, but a lot of people give advice to ignore messages for several hours or even days, personally I don't do that, i'll reply when I get a minute but its the initiating that most guys need to lose.

It's a fine balance from being a guy who initiates too much to playing games leaving it hours on end to reply to texts all the time. Better to just be genuine imo.
 
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She brought up relationship talk I NEVEr me tioned it we nust been fwb i compiled about sex because i want it more then once an interacton from her she didnt seem like she wants sex as much. I havent heard from her in a week so what was i suppose to do? I mean i want to have sex whata the deal she never want to? I know she ****ing somebody else i dont care just dont get why she avoid me and she told me shes a virgin and had a friend stalk my fb?
 

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Screw her man....I got a vigin who is acting distant now too...she wanted me to take her v card but I couldn't... **** was too soft to **** her not only once but twice...

So now she's playing a game of trying to force me to over pursue....but I won't...have some pride...

If u want sex go clubbing or get an escort....

Better yet go to a well known cougar bar in your area and you can't go wrong for sex....
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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zinc4 said:
Screw her man....I got a vigin who is acting distant now too...she wanted me to take her v card but I couldn't... **** was too soft to **** her not only once but twice...

So now she's playing a game of trying to force me to over pursue....but I won't...have some pride...

If u want sex go clubbing or get an escort....

Better yet go to a well known cougar bar in your area and you can't go wrong for sex....
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good god..
lmao is this for real
good god is rite
snort blow much?

after your performance the least u could do is over pursue a bit, your pride is long gone:crackup:
 

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It's not my fault she couldn't make me hard enough...
 

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lol point taken but, youre a guy, pretend shes some wh0re you always wanted to smash but never did

lonewolf, scroll up, this has been explained to you muiltiple times bro
 
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zinc4 said:
It's not my fault she couldn't make me hard enough...
Let her suck you off first. It's kinda my normal ritual that they will prepare the majestic rod and extend it to maximum length before intiating penetration.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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