Is it possible to redefine yourself as an alpha among your friends?

[three12]

In my experience, you can, but as Jariel etc. have said, it has to be a REAL change, and you've gotta do it for you.

Agreed.

It has to be REAL change.

You can join a new group of friends and go in acting all alpha. They aren't going to have it. They aint going to just let some chode come in and take over.

I've had guys who I assume were in a community like this try and join my group over the last few years.

They've gone no where. You can't fake it.

three12.

 

[L777]

Punch them in the face when they disrespect you.

That's pretty alpha.

Good call.

 

[MacDiddy]

You can join a new group of friends and go in acting all alpha. They aren't going to have it. They aint going to just let some chode come in and take over.
three12.

I disagree. New groups do not have the prejudices of old groups and if you waltz in an alpha, you get judged on first impressions. Obviously you need to be congruent and maintain this alphaness or it will eventually erode your status within the group when others start poking holes in your behaviour.

The dynamics of new groups are often more welcoming. You do not get the same welcome when you front up with old groups unless you haven;t been around for a while. Which is why if you don't get much respect in old groups, leave! come back with your new self with a bit of time distance in between. This often makes others have to re-establish rapport with you. They will have to respect you more as a matter of courtesy until they get a green light to dis you like before and that will often be a result of you showing weakness.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I recently started casually dating somebody and have been having sex with her since the first date. I was thinking to myself that my friends would see me in a different light after this and the social dynamic would change as a result. However, nothing much seems to have changed.

So what the hell does being alpha have to do with this chick you are laying? Are your buds in the bedroom with you guys and you feel that being alpha will allow you to be first in line?

 

[Solarium]

I changed myself profoundly, both socially, physically, and mentally. Now I have the respects of my old friends. But you don't just want to stay there do you, you want to build more friendships with people who are stronger than you to allow more room for improvement.

 

[DJorBUST]

I don't understand the people on this thread at all. People are accusing me of trying to get women simply to impress friends, claiming that they know what "alpha" is and trying to lump together a bunch of positive self-affirmations into this term, claiming that I am trying to abandon my friends hoping that I will become an alpha male just by getting new friends and claiming that I came here for advice and then got mad and rejected it.

If you geniuses had bothered to read my second post way back when, you would have noticed that I said I APPRECIATED the advice that had been given and that I was actually going to use the advice and improve myself for reasons other than simply to get women and that I might consider moving on (per the advice of other posters). Here, I'll even COPY AND PASTE MY RESPONSE BELOW:

"A lot of good advice here (save the advice that would have landed me in jail). I think I'm going to try and combine a few bits of advice here. I'm going to work on my game with women while maintaining the same group of friends without expecting them to change their perceptions of me. I'm just working on my game just for the sake of getting women and not to try and gain respect from friends. After I've achieved that, I'll reassess where I'm at and how my friends perceive me. If they are still acting the same, but I've achieved what Amante suggested I achieve, then I will move on to a new group of friends. Thanks again. Any additional advice would be appreciated."

Oh, BTW, user backbreaker who suggested I asked for advice and I pouted like a little ***** needs to learn how to ****ing read. I didn't bother to read your long-winded whiny ass post after the first few paragraphs of you whining about how bad you had it like a little *****.

I asked for advice, got it, thanked those who gave it and said I would make use of it. God knows how this could possibly enrage other users enough to attack me personally. *****-es, just a group of *****-es...

 

[Bonhomme]

A lot of people are trying way too hard to be "alpha males" when they could do a hell of a lot better by being more effective "sneaky fvckers" (i.e., the "betas" who get most of the booty while the alphas are too busy fighting among themselves for "top dog" status).

 

[Datawolf]

A lot of people are trying way too hard to be "alpha males" when they could do a hell of a lot better by being more effective "sneaky fvckers" (i.e., the "betas" who get most of the booty while the alphas are too busy fighting among themselves for "top dog" status).

If that isn't the funniest thing I've ever read, it's a shoe-in for first runner up.

 

[DJorBUST]

A lot of people are trying way too hard to be "alpha males" when they could do a hell of a lot better by being more effective "sneaky fvckers" (i.e., the "betas" who get most of the booty while the alphas are too busy fighting among themselves for "top dog" status).

Hahahaha...the best advice yet. Thanks.

 

[three12]

it doesn't work like that..

..unless you've got a mixed up idea of what an alpha is..

there will be a period of change when it might be HALF true..

Reality is, if you're social group meets 5 new groups of girls over 5 months, very similar things will happen..

The *alpha* in your group will generally hook up with the hottest girl, and it will work its way down. (More realistically, there will be sorta 3 guys at the top of a group, 4 in the middle, 3 down the bottom. It will be ONE of those 3 at the top who will get the hottest girl.)

This comes from years of experience with this.

The reasons being people learn there place. And everyone reacts in certain ways.

The guy on the bottom could say the same thing as the guy on the top but people would react entirely differently. If you can't understand that, you don't understand group dynamics.

three12.