Is it possible to have ZERO success with girls?

[LaDanian Tomlinson]

I am so confused right now man. I am on this website almost every day and I haven't got anywhere past making out with a chick when we were drunk. I have gone to the gym about three times a week over the past year. I have tried to improve myself as much as possible. I look good, feel confident, have no problem approaching girls, and am always trying to get better. BUT, I still can't get chicks. I don't know what it is but I am really starting to get frustrated.

Last night just completely pissed me off. I hung out with this chick about a month ago and it went well. But, every time I tried to plan something, something came up and we couldnt hang out. Normally, I wouldn't put up with this type of behavior, but because I don't have hardly any options I let her flake on me over and over again. So we planned on last Tuesday to go to a kickback last night. She texts me at the last minute and says it's not happening so I ask if she wants to go to a bonfire with me. and she's like "i think im going to my boyfriends house but ill ask him if he wants to go". i'm like wtf since when did you have a boyfriend? are you kidding me? so i get pissed and call her up and yell at her and say have fun with your boyfriend and hang up.

so i just nexted the flaky chick, but the thing that stuck with me during the conversation is that she said "i thought you knew i don't like you like that". WTF??? I honestly don't know what else I can do to get a chick to like me "like that". I don't know why she wouldnt. I did nothing to suggest that I just wanted to be friends. I am so ****ing confused. WHAT ELSE CAN I DO?

Then later on that night i see her and her boyfriend and i just am ****ing clueless now. The boyfriend is a ****ing loser. He looks like he's a ****ing retard. WHY WOULD SHE PICK AN UGLY MOTHER ****ER OVER ME? WTF DO I HAVE TO DO? you don't know how pissed i was to see them making out and feeling each other up RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. it pissed me the **** off.

I am just kinda depressed right now becuase it's not easy getting rejected 100% of the time. I can't get a chick to save my life. I try hard as anyone, but yet, no chicks want me. I don't know why. WHAT ELSE CAN I DO???????????????

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

I try hard as anyone, but yet, no chicks want me

That's why you aren't getting any.... You try to hard.

Your desperation is very apparent and no girl wants a guy like that.

Didn't you already post this story, the other day? I coulda swore i responded in that one, too.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

"Normally, I wouldn't put up with this type of behavior, but because I don't have hardly any options I let her flake on me over and over again."

Mistake 1: You put women above yourself.

"I did nothing to suggest that I just wanted to be friends."

Mistake 2: Doing "nothing" suggests you wanted to be friends. (by nothing i mean sexually)

Like an old me,you hit a barrier,you can Approach-> get # (make her attracted sort to say).And you do this with multiple girls thinking one eventually will scream "FVCK ME NOW!".It doesn't work like that.Girls WILL NOT flock to you because *YOU* feel confident,or happy,or fit.It's like holding a die,let's say if you get a roll >3 you win,you can make your dice,and the one u use has 2,3,3,5,5,6 on it's sides,yes you CAN and DID raise your chances of winning,but YOU DON'T ROLL THE FVCKING DIE.

 

[Socialreject]

Hey mate...

I know it's hard to keep a positive mind set when things are down... but you still have to do it. Stay positive, stay in the mood... DON'T get desperate.

I get the feeling like you are putting TOO MUCH importance on sarging. You should do it because it comes naturally, not because you view it as something you should be doing.

While you need to push yourself a little at first, never allow it to become a "chore".

Replace you natural curiosity with an action. When you see a girl and catch yourself thinking "she's cute" or "i wonder if i can pick her up", that's your cue to do an approach.

If you go out a night, and totally don't feel like approaching and just want to have some drinks with your buddies or have fun, then just don't approach. If you don't feel the need to approach you should never force yourself because it will show!!

HAVE FUN!!

I can't stress how important it is to just have fun while doing this!

Another thing is... you might want to review your game status at this point. What are you doing exactly, what are you saying, how do you look when you're approaching. Spend some time with a mirror if you have to and just watch yourself talk and then compare to good role models (of confident guys).

If you consistently see a point where things go belly up, then read up a little on that specific point and improve it. Sounds to me like your main problem is flaking. You are probably not building enough rapport, read up on how to build more rapport! Line, hook and sinker... First you attract, convey you are a sexual being (not a friend) and then you smooth it over with rapport. It's like a roller coaster, you want to push her buttons while your with her, but before she leaves again make sure you smooth it over with rapport or you end up looking like a player, to smooth or maybe to intimidating or even creepy. She needs to be interested, but also comfortable enough to show up on a date alone with you.

Going to soon into rapport lands you in the friends zone, going to fast and furious on the attraction puts you in the flake zone... Work on your game!

 

[MKS82]

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[protienpowder]

you should be trying to hook up with several girls, then start something with one that you like the most and respects you the most. that way if one gives you disrespect, its no big deal, just blow her off and concentrate of the girls who respect you.

 

[LaDanian Tomlinson]

Hey mate...

I know it's hard to keep a positive mind set when things are down... but you still have to do it. Stay positive, stay in the mood... DON'T get desperate.

I get the feeling like you are putting TOO MUCH importance on sarging. You should do it because it comes naturally, not because you view it as something you should be doing.

While you need to push yourself a little at first, never allow it to become a "chore".

Replace you natural curiosity with an action. When you see a girl and catch yourself thinking "she's cute" or "i wonder if i can pick her up", that's your cue to do an approach.

If you go out a night, and totally don't feel like approaching and just want to have some drinks with your buddies or have fun, then just don't approach. If you don't feel the need to approach you should never force yourself because it will show!!

HAVE FUN!!

I can't stress how important it is to just have fun while doing this!

Another thing is... you might want to review your game status at this point. What are you doing exactly, what are you saying, how do you look when you're approaching. Spend some time with a mirror if you have to and just watch yourself talk and then compare to good role models (of confident guys).

If you consistently see a point where things go belly up, then read up a little on that specific point and improve it. Sounds to me like your main problem is flaking. You are probably not building enough rapport, read up on how to build more rapport! Line, hook and sinker... First you attract, convey you are a sexual being (not a friend) and then you smooth it over with rapport. It's like a roller coaster, you want to push her buttons while your with her, but before she leaves again make sure you smooth it over with rapport or you end up looking like a player, to smooth or maybe to intimidating or even creepy. She needs to be interested, but also comfortable enough to show up on a date alone with you.

Going to soon into rapport lands you in the friends zone, going to fast and furious on the attraction puts you in the flake zone... Work on your game!

That's some of the best advice I've gotten on this website. I think you pointed out my biggest problem: desperation. I think it's very true that I might come off desperate. I think the best way to kill it is by finding more girls. Also, I think I need to have more fun with girls. I think I get too serious sometimes and I am not always "in the moment". So I'll try to work on that. thanks for the advice.

 

[rocky_mtn]

Go out an have fun, have so much fun that anyone around you is having fun too.

Find other girls who want to have fun, Not go home with you, be your g/f or your wife. Just have fun. If she doesn't want to have fun then go to the next girl. Life is too short not to have fun and you don't have time to spend with women who don't want to have fun. The best line out is the bar is "hey, we're having a great time over here why don't you join us" It about getting that good time going, once you and some friends, maybe a couple of chick decoys are out whooping it up, the chicks will want to have a part of it too. Then work it, but all in the context of having fun.

 

[Skweints]

In your situation, I would believe that she had a boyfriend the entire time, and she just didn't want to let you know to hurt your feelings.

Let's face it... here's the cold hard facts. For the average Joe... and by that, I mean someone who doesn't have a social status of Brad Pitt or any other superstar, a girl is either gonna like ya... or she's not.

Unfortunatly, this forum gives all men the impression that if they listen to all this advice, eventually, they'll be able to pick up ANY chick they want. At least, it did for me. Well, that could be so, if that's what you truely want... "Yeah, I want a chick, so I can bang her, and move on to the next one." Then a lot of this might work for you... but it seems to me, that most people who post on this forum are usually just looking for advice to give 'em the "edge" to getting that girl they want for a long term relationship.

You're best bet, bud, is to go out, and meet lots and lots of chicks. You probably have a 100% rejection rate because your odds, just like mine, are working against you. The only way fix that is to meet girls... all the time. From a simple session of flirting in the line at the grocery store to long-walks along the beach... or... something. I dunno, you figure that out. And here's going to be the hardest part... when you meet these chicks... start out as YOU only wanting to be FRIENDS with THEM, and stick to it with at least the first 20. The first 20 you'll meet will probably only be just friends anyways... BUT after a while, when you naturally become that pimp-daddy with the smooth moves, those first 20 will notice... and a few of them won't think of you as only being "just friends" anymore.