I want to know what you guys think about this. I'm asking because I've never seen a guy who's VERY smart, be social and good with women. The guy who's really smart is usually labeled a "geek" or a "nerd" and usually is neither social or good with women. Maybe I've been watching too much TV, but I've never seen a guy with very high grades, be social or good with women. They're usually those guys who stay home during social events, don't talk to anyone and spend all their time playing video games, studying or doing other hobbies. But on to the point, basically, I want to know what you guys think, is it possible to be a VERY smart guy and still be social and good with women?
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Is it possible to be very smart and still be social and good with women?
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it's possible to be anything you just have to be damn good at it...
you can be a nice guy you just have to be damn good nice...
you can be a geek you just have to be damn good geek...
no insecure niceness or half-ass geekiness... understand?
plus if you're smart you can use knowledge to your advantage and be very attractive with the way you present your knowledge
you can be a nice guy you just have to be damn good nice...
you can be a geek you just have to be damn good geek...
no insecure niceness or half-ass geekiness... understand?
plus if you're smart you can use knowledge to your advantage and be very attractive with the way you present your knowledge
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Being smart and not coming off as a nerd comes own to one thing: self-awareness.
Nerds aren't nerds because they are smart. It's because they have little to no self-awareness.
Nerds aren't nerds because they are smart. It's because they have little to no self-awareness.
Lol yea, there are always guys who are very smart and good with women. There were a couple of freakishly smart guys at my class in high school. Both seemed exceptional with women...
one was extremely intelligent, like literally in the top few smartest people in the country. But he was also a star swimmer, arrogant, and funny as hell. And good looking. But he was also sorta down to earth cuz he dressed kinda sloppy.
The other one was more serious more macho, muscular, and a nice guy who every one was cool with. Confident, in his own reality and one of those very rare people that have their **** together in every way possible.
And im talking BEYOND "very intelligent"
one was extremely intelligent, like literally in the top few smartest people in the country. But he was also a star swimmer, arrogant, and funny as hell. And good looking. But he was also sorta down to earth cuz he dressed kinda sloppy.
The other one was more serious more macho, muscular, and a nice guy who every one was cool with. Confident, in his own reality and one of those very rare people that have their **** together in every way possible.
And im talking BEYOND "very intelligent"
of course its possible. you CAN be smart and social and good with women. If your social, your social. If your smart, your smart. If your good with women, your good with women. They're all independent.
I think the thing with being smart is, it is intimidating. And i bet women when they come across a smart guy they feel DUMB in comparison and that makes them feel awkward, Plus like you said there is all the perceived bad sterotyped labels given to smart people. So u get away from all of that. U get your image sorted, and make sure you come across as "cool" and "social". Nerds typically look and act a certain way and it doesn't really turn women on so much. However if u rock up lookin bad ass, and have some attitude- the good kind- and then throw in some big words chicks will be like wow wasn't expecting that. It will work in your favour.
Smart is good. Smart is always good. Mostly it is other people that have a problem with you being smart.
Image is everything with chicks. So make sure that whatever your being perceived as is on cue or else your fukked. As for being social, I think that some smart guys struggle. They don't use the right words, they don't say things in the right way, body language is all wrong. Again, playing to stereotypes but that is what i see. If they fixed that they'd have no problems.
I think the thing with being smart is, it is intimidating. And i bet women when they come across a smart guy they feel DUMB in comparison and that makes them feel awkward, Plus like you said there is all the perceived bad sterotyped labels given to smart people. So u get away from all of that. U get your image sorted, and make sure you come across as "cool" and "social". Nerds typically look and act a certain way and it doesn't really turn women on so much. However if u rock up lookin bad ass, and have some attitude- the good kind- and then throw in some big words chicks will be like wow wasn't expecting that. It will work in your favour.
Smart is good. Smart is always good. Mostly it is other people that have a problem with you being smart.
Image is everything with chicks. So make sure that whatever your being perceived as is on cue or else your fukked. As for being social, I think that some smart guys struggle. They don't use the right words, they don't say things in the right way, body language is all wrong. Again, playing to stereotypes but that is what i see. If they fixed that they'd have no problems.
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Actually I feel this is a very good question...one which i've asked myself many times. I am one of these "very smart" people you talk about, but I have never been labeled as a nerd or anything like that. For me, I was always extremely shy and in my head. I never made any moves with women through my first 11 years of school 
eek: ), but I would constantly THINK about the best moves to make. I could never come up with the "perfect" line to say to my crush, so I never made any moves, and aside from my social circle, I was considered a really shy guy.
I started to change when I came to this (and other) sites, when I saw I was too "in my head" all the time, but it is still a constant struggle not to over think things and just go with the flow.
So yeah, it's definitely possible to be very smart and still be social and good with women, it might just take some effort.
eek: ), but I would constantly THINK about the best moves to make. I could never come up with the "perfect" line to say to my crush, so I never made any moves, and aside from my social circle, I was considered a really shy guy.I started to change when I came to this (and other) sites, when I saw I was too "in my head" all the time, but it is still a constant struggle not to over think things and just go with the flow.
So yeah, it's definitely possible to be very smart and still be social and good with women, it might just take some effort.
penkitten
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yes. my husband is nerdy smart and has charm and charisma to match.
thinking does cloud a lot of things sometimes doesn't it? it can make you desire something less, it can turn your emotions around, stir bad emotions such as fear, make you doubt yourself... thats why i say don't think about it and just do it.
but then you might do something stupid and run into her 6 ft bodybuilding boyfriend Brutus that's right next to her, or run into the girl of your dreams acting dumb as hell getting rejected feel like a loser never to see her again in your life...
but then you might do something stupid and run into her 6 ft bodybuilding boyfriend Brutus that's right next to her, or run into the girl of your dreams acting dumb as hell getting rejected feel like a loser never to see her again in your life...
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Hell you can be extremly intelligent and still good with women, I just dont make it a point of proving how intelligent i really am. Thats the same a bragging and no one likes that.