Is it over if HB brings friend on 1st date?

[The LadyKiller]

I was hanging with a friend earlier today and we stumbled upon the topic of a HB bringing a friend to a first date. In this hypothetical scenario, one of us would invite the HB out for drinks, only for her to agree and then bring one of her best girl friends.

My belief has always been that if it's not a 1-on-1 first date, it's over. She's using the friend as a subtle indication of non-interest. My friend says I'm wrong, suggesting that the friend is present to offer the HB a second opinion, as well as a sense of comfort if you don't know the HB especially well. He also says that HB would simply not go if she weren't at least a little interested. If you win the friend over, you win the HB over. One of our other guy friends agreed with me, while a smokeshow 9.5 I know says my friend is in the right.

What do you guys think?

 

[Fireballs]

It's definitely not over if a girl brings a friend on a 1st date. There could be many reasons that she has done this:

Wants validation from her friend, has low confidence, has low interest, has high interest but is shy etc..

If I ever found myself in this situation though, I would act as if I was on a date with the friend she brought, which would pretty much guarantee a 1 on 1 date next time.

 

[Vice]

In my experience they bring their friend so that they're not tempted to be sl*tty and have sex with you on the first date.

 

[Cerwin Vega]

I met my ex this way. She brought her best friend, I befriended her and gave them the same treatment as you would do with a two set you've just met at a bar.

Her friend saw that I'm not a creep and left us alone...after 10 minutes we were making out in the park.

You should keep her interest level extremely high and be at your A-game otherwise it most likely won't work - but don't feel nervous, if I could pull it off as an AFC - you can do it as well.

 

[Uncharted]

Flirt with both, just flirt more with the girl you like more.

Just have fun - who knows you might actually hit it off with the friend more. Just don't act like a girlfriend. Be a man.

 

[The LadyKiller]

The hypothetical was actually what I was encountering this week. I did this to keep the issue about the matter at hand and not extra variables.

She brought her best friend, I befriended her and gave them the same treatment as you would do with a two set you've just met at a bar.

Her friend saw that I'm not a creep and left us alone...

This is exactly what happened. I met up with both HB and her friend. 15 minutes in, her friend "had to go." HB and I talked for the next hour without any awkward pauses - it was seamless. She isn't in a rush to move things forward (a guy I later became friends with moved things too fast with her, she hates him now and doesn't want that to happen ever again), so nothing extra happened. We also both had obligations later - her girlfriends from home were around, and I was getting up extremely early the next day. My hope is we'll be going on a real date soon.

 

[devilkingx2]

assuming you don't barely know her and haven't like, just met her or something then it's a bad sign

the other exception would be if the friend was the one setting you two up on the date, then it'd make sense she'd be there for atleast part of it sort of to introduce you two

just think about what it would mean if you wanted to bring your buddy along on a date with you

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

If there's three people on a date, it's not a date between two of those people is it. It's a meeting between three people. Pretty easy to get friend-zoned in this scenario. Three may be four of these 'dates' down the line, you'll realise it.

If I was really interested in the target I'd go. But she'd have to be a 9-10.

 

[AttackFormation]

I'm only speaking from my limited experience here so don't take this as an instruction. When it happened to me, the girl was bringing her friend along to "evaluate" me. I'd say girls would bring friends along for two reasons:

1) C*ckblock you to make sure you don't do anything
2) Evaluate you as boyfriend material

If her friend leaves that probably means you got the green light. If the friend stays the whole time and your "date" doesn't seem to make any effort to escalate with you, that's a red light - a girl who wants you right now will in my experience drag you away and isolate you. I also think it's harder to escalate with her friend around, especially if you're sitting across each other at a table or something (sigh...) - it'll become more formal.

 

[The Duke]

I've had this situation happen twice. The first one was with an HB9. She brought her sister along. So I brought my good friend who is always good with women in social settings. We kept them laughing all night long. Ended up dating this girl for quite some time.

The second involved a HB8. I think this one tried to use it as an excuse to try and get out of our date and was hoping I wouldn't be willing. The date was fine but it never went anywhere after that. She played all sorts of games that women play that aren't interested.

 

[nismo-4]

It's the beginning of a friendship if the girl doesn't leave. If the girl likes you, she'll want to keep seeing you and not play games like this.

AFAIC when a woman plays games, she has low interest.

Would we, as men bring a male friend along on a date with Katy Perry? Highly unlikely.

 

[pdx1138]

I would never allow that.

If a girl wants to bring a friend on a first date, it's grounds for an immediate next, no matter the reason.