"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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is it okay to lie to sleep with a girl?

raspliffarian

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so i picked up this hb8 chick on the street near my house... we hit it off quite well and as she was complaining about living with her parents, i joked that we should live together

long story short, she took it seriously and apparently fell in love with me immediately, so we've been seeing each other constantly the last 2 weeks and knocking boots considerably

she talks a lot about moving in together and i've been going along with it, planning where to live and talking about how much fun it will be... now she's really looking forward to it and says how much she trusts me and believes that i won't betray her

problem is... i'm starting to have doubts about living with her... i basically just said what i said as it was the easiest path to getting into her panties

so i have a few questions...

1. is it okay to lie and trick girls by messing with their emotions so you can get them into bed?

2. even if i have some misgivings, is it better to do the honourable thing, keep my word and move in with her and at least give it an honest shot... i mean, i like her but i still want to bang other chicks

3. if i decide not to move in with her, what's the least painful way (for her) to go about ending it and/or extricating myself from this situation?


i consider myself a good person and cutting bait at this point seems ruthless... but i feel like i'm going to need to override the basic instinct to have more women just to be with one and i don't know if it's worth it to change that much
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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LMFAO!!!

Either you have the strongest game ever, or you've bagged yourself a nutcase. No way in 'L should you take up residence with this woman. Period.
 

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DMSR76 said:
LMFAO!!!

Either you have the strongest game ever, or you've bagged yourself a nutcase. No way in 'L should you take up residence with this woman. Period.
Listen to this guy ^^^^ Gauranteed nut case. Don't move in and don't get emotionally smitten with her. :nono:
 

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1. You shouldnt need to.
2. Dear god no.
3. Abort now.

She is nuts.
 

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Hahaha really??

Tell her you were "just kidding" about moving in. :p

You really rode the lie too far...and now you're paying for it. If it was just to sleep with her the first time, that's relatively harmless. Although I don't operate that way myself, I can understand it. But to continue to allow her to get her hopes up just so you could keep banging her...well, you get what you have coming. Now you have a full-on nutjob (because that's the only kind of girl who would move in with you after 2 weeks of knowing you) expecting you to be serious with her.

Good luck.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This could be messy :kick:
 

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My personal opinion is no! You should not have to lie to get her in bed.

In the end, only you can decide what is okay for you.

Good luck.
 

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raspliffarian said:
1. is it okay to lie and trick girls by messing with their emotions so you can get them into bed?
Flat out lying no, but skirting the issue is different.

If you only joked about it, and she took it seriously, then how are you to blame for that?

There is a difference between flat out lying and her misreading the situation. Don't make the mistake of apologising to her for her misread of the situation.


raspliffarian said:
2. even if i have some misgivings, is it better to do the honourable thing, keep my word and move in with her and at least give it an honest shot... i mean, i like her but i still want to bang other chicks
2 - NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! After 2 weeks? FVCK NO!

This is why:

Rollo Tomassi said:
Iron Rule of Tomassi #4

NEVER under any circumstance live with a woman you aren't married to or are not planning to marry in within 6 months.

You are utterly powerless in this situation. NEVER buy a home with a girlfriend, NEVER sign a rental lease with a girlfriend. NEVER agree to move into her home and absolutely NEVER move a woman into your own established living arrangement. I'm adamantly opposed to the "shacking up" dynamic, it is a trap that far too many men allow themselves to fall into. My fervor agianst this isn't based on some moral issue, it it simple pragmatism. If you live with a woman you may as well be married because upon doing so every liability and accountability of marriage is then in effect. You not only lose any freedom of annonymity you commit to, legally, being responsible for the continuation of your living arrangements regardless of how your relationship decays.

I should also emphasize the point that when you commit (and it is a financial committment) to cohabiting with a GF you will notice a marked decrease in her sexual availability and desire, trust me on this. All of that competitive anxiety and it's resulting sexual tension that made your single sex life so great is removed from her shoulders and she can comfortably relax in the knowledge that she is your ONLY source of sexual intimacy. Putting your name on that lease with her (even if it's just your name) is akin to signing an insurance polcy for her - "I the undersigned promise not to ƒuck any woman but this girl for a one year term." She thinks, "if he wasn't serious about me, he wouldn't have signed the lease." Now all of that impetus and energy that made having marathon sex with you an outright necessity is relaxed. She controls the frame and she's got it in writing that it is for at least a year.

Just don't do it. Relationships last best when you spin more plates or at the very least keep each other at arm's distance.
Don't buy into the feminine convention that by banging a girl for any length of time, you are obligated to have a relationship with her. She was a willing party as well.


raspliffarian said:
3. if i decide not to move in with her, what's the least painful way (for her) to go about ending it and/or extricating myself from this situation?
Don't move in with her. Like Squirrels said, tell her you were only joking about moving in together.

And dependent on her behaviour after this, either:

* If her attraction is still there and she is not revealed to be a complete nutcase (10% chance), keep banging her and also see other girls

* If she turns out to be a nutcase (90% chance), EJECT!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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