Is it more difficult for good looking guys?...

[In2theGame]

Firstly... i dont mean to come off as Arrogant or into myself at all..I dont have a picture up on here but im basically, 6'1, tanned skin, Athletic 185lbs Cut up Body, Green Eyes.... I really dont understand it. The story goes as is.. I consider myself good looking and many HB have told me that im Hot,Sexy, or on some occasions, some have told me gorgeous. The thing that im not getting is why girls are either rude to me, act like im not even around or just treat me like trash for no reason or even try to make me look stupid. i mean WTF?... Lately some girl that i see at a near by Pizzeria told another girl that i know, that i groped her hand when she was handing me change, thats totally untrue! wtf?. why did she have to make up a stupid story like that? another time, i went to the supermarket, lookin pretty good.. yet the fat girl that was ringing up my stuff looked at me and then boom... after she handed me change, she bagged my stuff and kinda threw it across the counter instead of handing me the bag. lol i had to laugh at it because i was thinking "Why do women hate me?" it hurts the self-esteem and gives me the impression that no girls find me attractive at all.

I get long eye contact from girls but then act distant if i try to talk to them. When i go out looking good, i dont even get EC whatsoever!, nothing, zip, nada, maybe a few here and there but hardly. The Main Question im asking is...

Is it harder for hot guys to talk to girls? do girls make it harder for attractive guys? What is it? Do any of you guys get treated like **** even though you know a girls attracted to you? Any help??

Thanks.

 

[MackJr]

It's not your looks. When I got really into shape, women warmed up to me more. I didn't need that much game.

It's probably your body language.. try assuming different physical stances when you approach a woman and find otu what works. It may be counter intuitive.

 

[Prof]

What kind of body language? Is it as simple as being confident and that will just somehow show up in your body language, naturally?

 

[MackJr]

Originally posted by Prof
What kind of body language? Is it as simple as being confident and that will just somehow show up in your body language, naturally?

No it won't. it could be as specific as how he uses his eyes or how much he moves his hands around. I don't know what he's doing, but he needs to try different stances until he finds out what has the effect he wants.

There are master PUAs out there that can seduce a woman purely with body language, no words. So it is something that needs to be worked on.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

they are giving you **** tests

I love **** tests, they are 100% of some men's repertoire

she's giving you signals, at first, and than the word spreads and they see that you are cowardly....

After they see you are cowardly they still want to not blow you off completely, but subtley try and get you to become a man. They may just be inducing more drama though.

I don't know if it's counter intuitive for the ladies, but you are definitely not picking up the signals right, and the girls probably are picking up yours. and sending you return signals in the form of stop being such an ass

I know your goal, and what you look like ain a club, not a pretty sight.

I know it's not wrong what you are saying, I've seen guys without charisma in the same shoes as you

 

[diplomatic_lies]

You can always throw some acid on your face if you want to be ugly.

Everyone knows good-looking guys never get laid, and all fat, ugly, smelly guys get all the supermodels!

 

[In2theGame]

It's probably your body language.. try assuming different physical stances when you approach a woman and find otu what works. -Mackjr

I guess some physical stances come off as arrogant and some come off as friendly, is that what you mean?. i guess i can see what ur saying. but what about females being rude to you for no apparent reason when your just normal and friendly?

 

[In2theGame]

Thanks for the isight guys. I guess yeah, i have to work on body language more. like mackjr said, some guys can seduce a woman just by body language without a word.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by In2theGame
Thanks for the isight guys. I guess yeah, i have to work on body language more. like mackjr said, some guys can seduce a woman just by body language without a word.

dude you live in new york city. that place is huge, there are probably tons of puas there. try going sarging with one to get some help.

 

[bossdog]

u prolly arent smiling

 

[tmpgstx]

Is it harder for hot guys to talk to girls? do girls make it harder for attractive guys?

It's not the body language. I know what you're talking about and it sux! I think there is a point (a fine point) where you're considered like OMG really hot vs. just hot or even good looking. When you're in the first category, women shy away as if you were some kind of untouchable or something.

One lady, i thought was attractive and she wouldn't look at me .. nothing (i thought to myself .. what a bytch). Later, i heard her tell a friend that i was the most handsome guy she'd ever seen (sitting adjacent to her at a resteraunt). Needless to say i was flattered. I tried to make eye contact and she looked down immediately.

Here are some other things:

-HB10 asks for my number. I give it to her and later tells a friend she's to chicken to call. She got the number because she was really drunk.

-Another HB10 gives me her number, call and talk to her 45mins. See her out again and is very, very shy - almost like a peek a boo type of game - looking and then hiding - almost comical! I haven't called her again yet though.

So i'm out recently and this HB9 is with (you could tell) really low self-esteem. She practically knocks me off a step with her purse .. so i'm like "whooaaa, what do you have in that thing?". She's says in a really angry snaughty voice "wouldn't you like to know". I don't know her personally and have never talked to her before.

My body language is good, and i come across very successful, yet the girls with the low-self esteem seem to despise my persona while the ones with healthier mindsets are intimidated, shy and nervous.

I could write about more incidents like the ones above, and some are comical alright.

When i say something even remotely sarcastic - i'm an arrogant azzhole, but when someone else says it - it's cute or funny.

 

[Logen]

In2theGame, i live in NYC too. and a lot of the girls here are stuck up *****es that need to be broken.

i've been told i'm a good looking guy too, and i get the same responses as you.

i think, somehow, you have to make them think you're non threatening. most average and above average looking girls have confidence problems. instead of being nice and flirting to good looking guys they are *****es because they know they don’t have a chance with you (which could be totally untrue) and they just want to make your life a living hell because of it.

once they see that you're a nice and a non threatening guy then they might soften up. that’s when you crank the not so nice guy seduction.

BTW, i'm in the city almost everyday, and i am looking for a wingman/sarging partner. would you be up for it?

 

[ScrewIt]

probably it's just your facial expression. Smile and appear friendly, women will usually open up. Good looks can be intimidating but you should let that get to you. Maybe you try too hard with your looks? it sometimes can be a drawback if you make yourself look the best (dress well, nice hair and facial complexion)
or you just try too hard in general, women have a 6th sense...they know **** before it happens. Be cool, calm, and collected.

and to answer your question, no it isnt more difficult for good looking guys. If anything it should be easier.

 

[wowiehowie]

I was at this "countryish" type bar a few nights ago. Me and a friend were sitting at the end of the bar, and then an HB8 walks in alone and sits at the bar about 10 seats down. Me and my boy are talking, and drinking. As I periodically scan the scene I always catch her looking at me , and then quickly looking away as if she's not. So, about a half an hour goes by. I get up and "hit the head" and on the way back, I sit down next to her and say:

me: "You look a little bored"
her: "Just tired" ( looking a bit put off)
her: (starts giggling a little and rolls her eyes)
me: (laughing a little) "What's so funny?"
her: "Oh, you know the typical or standard bar pickup line." (pauses for few seconds) "My momma told me to never talk to strangers."
me: "How would you ever expect to meet people with that sort of attitude?"
her: ( a bit offbalanced at this point and coming back with something lame)
me: (Still laughing) "Well, you have a nice rest of the evening!"

So I walk back to where I was perched, and notice a few minutes later that she gets up in a flurry and hurries out of the bar.

Well, she was obviously sending some feelers my way. Funny thing was, was that she got what she was asking for and basically got flustered, or nervous, or even shy. As a funny as it may sound, that experience 'made the rest of my evening" and left me and my boy giggling about it the rest of the night.
I guess I intimidated her with my wit, charm, sarcasm(mild), and unusually good looks!

 

[Viking25]

Originally posted by In2theGame
Firstly... i dont mean to come off as Arrogant or into myself at all..I dont have a picture up on here but im basically, 6'1, tanned skin, Athletic 185lbs Cut up Body, Green Eyes.... I really dont understand it. The story goes as is.. I consider myself good looking and many HB have told me that im Hot,Sexy, or on some occasions, some have told me gorgeous. The thing that im not getting is why girls are either rude to me, act like im not even around or just treat me like trash for no reason or even try to make me look stupid. i mean WTF?... Lately some girl that i see at a near by Pizzeria told another girl that i know, that i groped her hand when she was handing me change, thats totally untrue! wtf?. why did she have to make up a stupid story like that? another time, i went to the supermarket, lookin pretty good.. yet the fat girl that was ringing up my stuff looked at me and then boom... after she handed me change, she bagged my stuff and kinda threw it across the counter instead of handing me the bag. lol i had to laugh at it because i was thinking "Why do women hate me?" it hurts the self-esteem and gives me the impression that no girls find me attractive at all.

I get long eye contact from girls but then act distant if i try to talk to them. When i go out looking good, i dont even get EC whatsoever!, nothing, zip, nada, maybe a few here and there but hardly. The Main Question im asking is...

Is it harder for hot guys to talk to girls? do girls make it harder for attractive guys? What is it? Do any of you guys get treated like **** even though you know a girls attracted to you? Any help??

Thanks.

I know how you feel man. And no..you are not imagining stuff...subtly HB8- will give you sh1t and try treating you like they are pisses of at you.
The main factor in "matching hypothesis" is the fear of rejection. This is just some psycology for you..straight from the book. So if you consider yourself to be at least a 9...it's is very unlikely you will ever hook up with HB7-..they will reject you even before you make your first move!..The fear you..and therefore will treat you like an enemy.
So here's the deal. Be friendly with HB9+ or basically anyone you consider to be in the same league with you. And you will notice no sh1t will be thrown in your face!

 

[In2theGame]

Man, thanks alot guys for your responses, positive and insightful ones. In respons to...

TMPGSTX- When i say something even remotely sarcastic - i'm an arrogant azzhole, but when someone else says it - it's cute or funny

Yeah i Agree with that 100% lol. your right in what you said. Its crazy isnt it? How woman will look at you and stare but nothing when you try socializing with them.

LOGEN- i live in NYC too. and a lot of the girls here are stuck up *****es that need to be broken

Yeah i kind of realize that, ive been to Georgia, Louisiana and Florida and the women to me are more friendly or maybe a but more carefree. It all depends i guess. Girls in Staten Island are all ****ed from what ive experience, in Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens girls are more open and verbal and Manhattan it all depends. Send me a note, where do you hang out?

Wowiehowie - So I walk back to where I was perched, and notice a few minutes later that she gets up in a flurry and hurries out of the bar

I guess she was into you but knew she blew it for being rude or distant lol. Women are crazy. Its true what they say. When women Talk, its just talk but what women do, is what they are really saying.

Viking25 - know how you feel man. And no..you are not imagining stuff...subtly HB8- will give you sh1t and try treating you like they are pisses of at you.

Man, i get **** tested so much that im like,.. Man Fvck it... It seems like girls are pissed off at me yes or if they dont seem that way, they will act like im nothing and ignore me. It reminds me of one time when i walked into a Sneaker Store.. the workers there were all girls. i didnt get any help lol. and when i bought a pair of shoes, the girl cashed me out and just pushed the box aside, i was like.. Uhhh can i get a Bag please?.. shes like "Omg Sorry, im just asleep i guess" .. Geez.


You guys are Big help!.. Its also a fun thing to find out a HB thinks your hot but you never knew it because she never looked at you, never talked to you, never smiled... Nothing. Just Cold.
Reminds me of Senior year in HS.

This Hot Italian girl, She never looked at me and would walk by me like i was a ghost. Well one day i asked her out, and she blew me off in front of the whole Lunchroom crowd. Damn i felt like Crap lol but later that year, She sat next to me in Visual Basics Class and handed me a note saying.. I think your Really Really Cute. so i said, i thought you didnt want to Talk to me after that time i asked you out. and She tells me, i thought you were joking around and didnt really like me and just trying to impress your freinds. After that, she followed me around lol

 

[seanchai]

Originally posted by BClanc159
that happens to me all the time and i hate it. like i'll say something sarcastic that i think it pretty funny and girls will be all put-off. then my friend, who i guess they see as less intimidating, says something similar and its cute

Don't necessarily chalk this up to being better looking than your mate. Your delivery could be really wrong. In my experience, I can get away with saying the ****iest sh¡t even though I'm good looking because it's congruent with my personality, and it doesn't sound ****y at all. Try working on how and when you drop these lines.

 

[MacDiddy]

In2thegame: your problem is that you got "NO GAME"...

Perhaps your "you look good and you know it" frame, probably puts most people down.. and hence OFF

 

[In2theGame]

MacDiddy- the no game Comment, Yeah you know what, I could see that i have no game, I believe it too because theres a difference with me 4 years ago and today and it all started when I got with the most neediest, *****iest, Low Self Esteem Chick that i stood with for 3 and a half years. before Her, i'd meet girls, get the Number.. i knew how to talk to girls on the phone in a way that was so seductive and so smooth, No Lie, swear to everything i love.. i had them playin with themselves just because the way i talked to them and meet up, hang out for thr F**k close. Now that i have that BS in my system of saying "Sweet" Stuff and being "loving" with "i love yous" I dont know how to talk to girls like i used to. I Hate thinking of what ive become.. but Fvck man, im trying to let myself go of that disgusting mentality.

Now i i guess im trying to depend on my looks and come off as a jerk and unfriendly. The thing is now,.. Since i dont have that "Character" that i used to be.. Girls acting rude to me or distant is makin a little difficult for me to get back to Myself... do you know what im tryin to say? ... Im not trying to sound like a lil b!tch thats complaining and whining.. im just trying to get back to myself with the help of you guys. its So true what they say... if you get with a Girl that has such self esteem issues and is SOOOO Needy, they will bring you down with them... and im upset that i let myself fall in that trap. "Oh But i Love her" <~~ that was me. So Disgusting.

 

[AmIAFC]

I think where you're going wrong is you're presenting yourself as a stiff, emotionless Elizabethan portrait --- a person who knows he's good-looking but doesn't offset that shallow element with some humble or charasmatic expression, hence you come off as some plastic model. Don't look too judgmental, analytical, or cold...have the look of both a hunter and a prey (got that from "Tombstone").