So, you train only 3 days a week? LOL...Originally posted by Templeton
I don't like to see the genetically average, chemically unassisted guy train 2 days straight no matter what bodyparts are involved. It is SO easy to overtrain.
Im pretty sure you can get very good results by working out that way (fullbody work out probably), but I dont think its a bad thing to work out 2 (or even 3) days in a row if you dont work out the same muscle groups during both workouts and still have 2 or 3 days a week on which you dont work out at all.So, you train only 3 days a week? LOL...
Damn right I do. EOD at the most which is slightly more than 3 days per week. If you can't make gains on 3 days per week then you aren't training hard and/or intelligently enough.Originally posted by Reto
So, you train only 3 days a week? LOL...
Originally posted by Templeton
Damn right I do. EOD at the most which is slightly more than 3 days per week. If you can't make gains on 3 days per week then you aren't training hard and/or intelligently enough.
I have trained for 15 yrs, both myself and numerous guys in the gym, including national caliber bodybuilders, guys who WERE assisted so I have seen what works for them and the average guy. I also heard Dorian Yates discuss this same issue with regard to the genetically average trainee at a seminar once and his view was that the regular drug free guy trained too often. About the only pro I have heard to tell the truth and blow away all the muscle mag myths. So who am I to listen to? A 6 time Mr Olympia generally considered one of the most knowledgable pros ever or...? Mmm that's a tough one.
I'm not saying 4 days a week won't work, it often will, but you skirt the boundaries of overtraining far more regularly, especially if for extended preriods of time.
Finally, someone's giving good advice on working out!!!! Right on Temp!!!
You need to give your whole body a chance to recover, not just individual muscle groups and as there is often an overlap how can this be done effectively when training two days? Training upper body one day and lower the next is not practical in my view as the latter half of the upper body workout really suffers when employing the usual amount of exercises.
Tell you what guys, here is something novel, how about just 2 days per week with just 2-3 basic exercises per workout? Don't think it will work? Got an 18 yr old guy doing just that right now who needed to put some bulk on, getting stronger and growing by the day and such training has worked for countless bros over the last 40-50 years.
That's the point - If you perform a 'conventional' amount of sets then the workout is prone to last too long, so do less sets! I am not talking Mike Mentzer style, that's too extreme in my view, but less than you are conditioned (through the BS in the mags) to perform.Originally posted by livin large
Working out just 3x per week causes problems. If you're working out every muscle group every week, that means you're working multiple muscle groups in each workout.
Who gave you the idea it's not as efficient or beneficial? If I were to train 3 days per week and you 4, and our progress was the same, then which would be more efficient? I would wager I make MORE progess on 3 days per week or EOD at most than you do on 4 or 5. Why do I thihk this? I have tried varying regimes over many years and my initial training was 3 days per week.Originally posted by livin large
wow. a lot of people do shoulder and back together. Me included. So what do you do the other 2 days? You can still have good workouts doing 3 days a week, it's just not as efficient or beneficial. I lift to increase stregth and size, and 3 days is not enough. Maybe it is for you, but if so, it's because you've already gone through years of 4-5 workouts per week. Most of us haven't gone through those years, so we can benefit from working out more often.
I like to do chest, shoulders and triceps together on one day and legs/back/biceps/abs on another one. That way theres no(/hardly an) overlap, but dont get me wrong I think your posts were good ;-)I like to do chest and arms together, shoulders and back as described before and have a dedicated leg day. Notice the overlap in the two upper body workout? Another reason to have a full day off in between sessions.
There we all are having a good discussion about our training ideas and you have to take it down a level.Originally posted by livin large
Templeton, I'm sure you're happy with your workout, but doing chest, bicep, and tricep on the same day would wear the hell out of me. If I'm a little tired going into a workout, I have a hard enough time getting through my tricep/bicep workout. I can't imagine adding chest on the same day. I don't see why you think dividing this workout into 2 or 3 days would increase the wear on your body. doing that doesn't mean you're spending more time in the gym, it means you're working harder while you're there.
Based on what you're telling me, I don't see why you don't just do 1 superworkout every week and hit every single muscle group in the same workout. Wouldn't that be optimal, according to your theories???
Don't talk to me like I'm some newbie who doesn't know what the hell is going on. I don't remember reading anything of value from you in this forum before, so don't come in here pretending you know everything, or anything for that matter.