"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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In instances where shes giving you the cold shoulder? Or do you think it would be better to give her the old cold shoulder right back? This girl has been overseas for a week and a half and came back a few days ago. Things were fine before she left but now she is acting weird.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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weird how?

People stay back, let's see if Dave already knows the answer.

We all know that nobody that comes to this site is TRULY fvcked in the head, we understand the logic after a period of time. I want everybody to work towards creating a new method of progressive teaching. I am sick of the constant banterings of KJ's and the force feeding of reiterated amterial written by DJ's.
 

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Weird as in its like talking to a wall.

Im assuming she has low interest level now. Its just frustrating to not know the reason why.
 

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Low interest level. Heh, see, you know the basics. That's the first thing that you depend on to get a girl. There is nothing without basic desire.

Now, we know the directions between most women and men towards their desires starts at opposite ends of the track. Some men rely completley on their emotions, and they let it control their logic, without having the proper logic, emotions in men lead them in the wrong direction. The thing with women, they need the emotions, before they can put into words their desires, for them it's like being pushed over the edge before they express their interest level.

What do you think she feels when she thinks about you now?

Don't go off worrying to me now, just say why, I'll give you a few generic points in a few minutes as to her reasons.
 

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I don't think I annoy her or anything. We've been getting romantic, but no sex yet. She is moving to Ireland in July. I assumed that we would have a strictly physical relationship minus the emotional BS because of our time limit. I know for a fact that she is attracted to me. Maybe she is frustrated because we haven't gotten that physical yet and she is an extremely horny girl.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Could be... frustration is such a flakey description though, you feel it whenever you have to make a choice. You have to feel her emotions, become compassionate.

You jumped a few steps. I asked you to tell me what she feels, and what you wanted her to feel.
 

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Now? I think she feels that I might be looking for something more than a hookup. Originally she may have felt that I was only looking for that, but I may have given her the wrong impression. I wanted her to feel attracted to me (which she is) and to just have something strictly physical. However, she told me that she always wants to know someone before she sleeps with them. That last line confused me a bit.
 

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:rockon:"I think she feels that I might be looking for something more than a hookup.":rockon:

That was an emotional response, I want logic out of you First and foremost unless you are in fact a lesbian... you don't respond like a female ever would...

Your answer was so short, but hit on a lot of your answers though. If I had the time I would break them down sentence for sentence as to where you can go, and where you should have come from. That is not my job though, that is yours...

If your going to play the game, you have to learn to play it right. Every DJ knows that the secret to learning is to knowing that everything you think can be good for you, or it can be bad for you.

I don't know if I have conciously led your emotions, or if I have just psychologically triggered some inconsistencies in your mind. What you said flowed, right up to the last words. It flowed from emotions first, then progressed to logic. Try writing it backwards as an exercise;)

Heh, it is hard to say something without falling back onto how you FEEL isn't it. Don't worry, with practice you will recognize it;)

Online it is hard to describe this, physical movements make this description far more powerful. Start to read in motions and symbols.

AFC's and DJ's are the same beast, but they take different paths, I hope you remember this for the future, it's sparingly used on this site. Emotion is what you are to use only if it is the best option. Women use emotion because it is the best way to raise somebody, best way to learn, relying on emotion is a very profitable way to look at life, only if you react to it immediately. Being a female, society protects you, and protected female flourish if they are allowed to let their emotions flow freely, AFC's are pushovers, they also let their emotions control them. What you have to do is listen to logic first, and then try and listen to your emotions, don't SNAP to your emotions first, you have to HOLD ON to your logic, than let your emotions carry you.

Thank you for not going too deep though, staying just below the surface is a good way, but only if somebody has the interest level to pursue the lesson. Right now, I am drilling you with logic, and letting my emotions work within me.


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I cannot finish this lesson though. Other desires are stronger in the back of my mind. I have other things to do. I am far from where you are, and hedonistic(immediate satisfaction) desires are available to me. Just think over this for a second for some personal coaching, think of the logic first. Read something that inspires emotions within you, and than make another thread and ask the question again. Give reasons, what you want, what confuses you, and throw in some "********" examples. Right at the end of your question, don't say please and thank you, say something for people to REALLY respond to, the basis of what you desire to know and they'll work with what you said before it to explain it to you.
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Best of Luck
It's time to sarge
 

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Thanks for the reminder. "HOLD ON to your logic, than let your emotions carry you. HOLD ON to your logic, than let your emotions carry you." Need to hang that **** on my wall or something, eh?
 

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Someone's signature says something by the lines of:

Rewarding a woman with attention is like rewarding a dog for pissing on the carpet.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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