Is It Fear ... Or ... Pride

[Theatrical_Mind]

Gentlemen.

For sometime now I have read the books, read the articles, studied the outside world of approaching women ..etc...etc.... At first I thought it was just FEAR ... and it could be a small dab of such .. however .. I really sat down and analyzed my thoughts on why I hesitate to approach. The days I do it's a 50 / 50 situation ... but come one let's face it ....

The fact is .. when a MAN approaches a WOMAN .. we give that woman the POWER !! .. HENCE THE WORD POWER .. to choose ... feels as if I go sub serviant to her when I do approach .. I mean yeah sure .. we can all have the confident ... "if she rejects you .. then she was not worth it" ... or ... "she was just not the one" .. but the simple fact is ... men just strook the ego's of these females when men do approach .. my PRIDE will not allow that ... I've seen to many of these males approach, get rejected .. and these females have something to talk about to their amen, chicken headed friends afterwards ... It's like forbidden for me to allow such to happen to me .... I will not be of the end of the day discusison in some damn female group. Now most of the time I do approach ... and I HATE THAT WITH A PASSION .. better for her to come to me ... WHY .. because she let go of that .."HE NEEDS TO COME TO ME " non-sense ... Please .. I will not fall for it ... I know this is going to generate a lot of DISAGREEMENTS .. and I can understand that .. all the so called .. scientifical past eveidence ... etc ..etc... to me .. it's all about POWER .. this is no longer a .. "oh wow he came and spoke to me and I was kind to him .." era .. this is a .. " YEAH THATS RIGHT YOU MEN NEED TO FALL TO OUR WHIMS AND APPROACH FEMALES BECAUSE YALL' AIN'T ****" era ... My heart .. My anger , My pride .. everything I've worked for .. won't allow me to play that kind of role ..... any comments would more than be appreciated ... maybe it's something I'm not see'ing.

 

[ElStud]

Actually most females usually forget about the guy after he approaches if the guy didn't spark any kind of emotion. And if the guy did spark emotion, the girl will probably tell her friends "Oh my god! This hot guy approached me today!". I can't help but feeling you're using all this crap as an excuse NOT to approach.

 

[Theatrical_Mind]

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I still approach .. but that's just how I feel ... listening to these females after a guy approaches and she strait punks him. SIckens the hell out of me .... but granted I still have to do such .. SADLY TO SAY. The fact is .. it SHOULD BE THE REVERSE .. but it's not like that so I have to role with the times .. I'm just saying how I feel ...

 

[ElStud]

You must be approaching b*tches because most girls aren't like that.

 

[Michael Chief]

its fear.

the human mind, both consciously and subconsciously is VERY VERY good at making excuses or justifying a behavior you may see as negative to view yourself in a more positive light in order to save the ego, which must remain in tact for the survival or your mind's self identity.

in simple terms, ur just making excuses to stay in your comfort zone.

about POWER ... you arent giving your power away when you approach a woman unless you telegraph too much interest. when i go sarging, i usually approach with an opener that involves asking for an opinion or something simple like that. im not giving away my power; i am simply creating a positive interaction. you might think i'd be giving away power when i number-close, but i dont. i dont ASK for a phone number like "please please give me a chance!!!" i TELL them to give me their numbers. they see then that i am a confident guy and they do as i say ;-)

 

[Theatrical_Mind]

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All that sarging .. is cool ... however SHE'S KNOWS .. YOUR APPROACHING HER !!! ..

And the fact is .. You can have an education and still be a B-TCH .. only difference between the two kind of females is a piece of paper ...

Could be fear YES .. however with that so called .."FACE YOUR FEAR" and which I do and just do it anyway .. the SIMPLE FACT IS .. YOU ARE GOING TO HER .. and I still do such .. BUT .. IT SHOULD NOT BE .. but there is no point of all the should have's ... it is what it is ... I've approached females and had all kinds of different responses ... sitting here playing myself just to find a way to get to her ... while all she has to do is laugh and give you a YES OR A NO? ??? *sighs* ... Maybe it's just my anger .. maybe I'm thinking to deep into this .... or maybe it's just the females here .... Amazing isn't it .. MALES have to find ways on end .. just to get that one .. while the .. "prey" just sits there and stays itself ....

 

[ElStud]

If she's just saying "Yes" or "No", that's your bad conversational skills not yours. If you think talking to a girl is hard, maybe you're just trying too hard. Maybe you should just GO AND TALK TO HER and stop thinking about what to say and JUST SAY.

 

[Michael Chief]

ur obsessed with this whole power issue. calm down dude. the reality is that gaming is a power play and not one side is going to have all the power in the interaction (most of the time).

she knows you're approaching but she doesnt know that you are sexually interested if u play ur cards right.

the truth is that we males have the responsibility to take the risks in a male-and-female relationship. its cuz we arre supposed to have the balls to take risks. u got balls right? ;-)
the male is naturally supposed to take the risk of initiating things with the female, whether it be an approach, number-close, kiss-close, full-close, getting the date, making her the girlfriend or fiance or WHATEVER. we must take the risk of initiating, and i see no problem with that. sure, u might see it as a loss of power because you are basically giving her a CHOICE to "choose" you or not, but u must realize that women have the right to CHOOSE. YOU, however, should be making her feel good emotions to make her WANT to choose you. thats what gaming and all this DJ stuff is all about, man.

 

[Theatrical_Mind]

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"Women have the RIGHT to choose" .. WHO THE HELL OR WHAT DIVINE LAW SAID THAT ?

Now I know this is nothing new for what I'm about to say .. because I know many have had the same question before ... WHERE DOES IT SAY MEN HAVE THAT RESPONSIBLITY? WHAT DIVINE LAW OR UNIVERSAL LAW SAID THAT BUT SOME MAN FROM THE Archaic days who just decided that. To be HONEST and my thoughts on this .. THEY SHOULD COME TO ME .. those females are the ones who will grow old, tiddies sagging to the floor and will detoriate .. while MEN and you fella's know what I"m talking about well I should say Most men .. keep themselves up WAY PAST OLD AGE. I grow so tired of this ..

My next question and FELLA'S KNOW this is nothing new I'm sure this has been discussed before ... WHAT THE F-CK DOES THE FEMALE do in all this but get kicks and giggles ...

Reason why I'm saying this is because I'm striving to be open minded about all this MALE SUPPOSE TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY IN A EQUALITY FEMINIST MODERN ERA ...

I'm trying to find out what am I not looking or see'ing .. because all I see is .. "MALES ARE SUPPOSE TO" ... and that's it ... I can't vouch for that ... I approach women because it's just the way somehow people wanted it to be and I have to role with these pathetic times.. and when I approach a woman .. I think to myself this sh-t is pathetic who the F-ck is SHE that I have to approach her .. My vision is beyond hers but yet I have to come down a notch to make her feel good and get her to laugh so that I can sleep with her?... I'm sitting here trying to make her feel good about herself when SHE SHOULD BE COME TO ME ... with her soon to be Body sagging self ...

 

[Cowhead418]

"Women have the RIGHT to choose" .. WHO THE HELL OR WHAT DIVINE LAW SAID THAT ?

Now I know this is nothing new for what I'm about to say .. because I know many have had the same question before ... WHERE DOES IT SAY MEN HAVE THAT RESPONSIBLITY? WHAT DIVINE LAW OR UNIVERSAL LAW SAID THAT BUT SOME MAN FROM THE Archaic days who just decided that. To be HONEST and my thoughts on this .. THEY SHOULD COME TO ME .. those females are the ones who will grow old, tiddies sagging to the floor and will detoriate .. while MEN and you fella's know what I"m talking about well I should say Most men .. keep themselves up WAY PAST OLD AGE. I grow so tired of this ..

My next question and FELLA'S KNOW this is nothing new I'm sure this has been discussed before ... WHAT THE F-CK DOES THE FEMALE do in all this but get kicks and giggles ...

Reason why I'm saying this is because I'm striving to be open minded about all this MALE SUPPOSE TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY IN A EQUALITY FEMINIST MODERN ERA ...

I'm trying to find out what am I not looking or see'ing .. because all I see is .. "MALES ARE SUPPOSE TO" ... and that's it ... I can't vouch for that ... I approach women because it's just the way somehow people wanted it to be and I have to role with these pathetic times.. and when I approach a woman .. I think to myself this sh-t is pathetic who the F-ck is SHE that I have to approach her .. My vision is beyond hers but yet I have to come down a notch to make her feel good and get her to laugh so that I can sleep with her?... I'm sitting here trying to make her feel good about herself when SHE SHOULD BE COME TO ME ... with her soon to be Body sagging self ...

I understand where you are coming from because in this supposed era of equality men are still "supposed" to do their traditional roles while women can opt out of theirs without any fuss. It's nothing but utter BS sometimes. I too hate it when the people give reasons like "It's a man's job" or "It's the man's responsibility to blah blah blah". Says who? I thought we were done with this gender role crap?

However, when it comes to the dating game, I don't really see an alternative. Women may now make as much as men do and have the same opportunities, but it's not like feminism suddenly changed women's nature to the point where they will start asking men out. If you don't approach that hot chick, then some other guy will. However, if you find a way that works without approaching, more power to you.

 

[DJVladdy]

Man you got a pont.
Some times at the club id rather chill and look cool. Then like my friend who has all the traits of what u nerds call "amog" alpha male of group i believe. he approaches many girls and embarasses himself because the bythes reject him.

 

[Theatrical_Mind]

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I understand where you are coming from because in this supposed era of equality men are still "supposed" to do their traditional roles while women can opt out of theirs without any fuss. It's nothing but utter BS sometimes. I too hate it when the people give reasons like "It's a man's job" or "It's the man's responsibility to blah blah blah". Says who? I thought we were done with this gender role crap?

However, when it comes to the dating game, I don't really see an alternative. Women may now make as much as men do and have the same opportunities, but it's not like feminism suddenly changed women's nature to the point where they will start asking men out. If you don't approach that hot chick, then some other guy will. However, if you find a way that works without approaching, more power to you.

EXACTLY!!!! WE know in this so called 21st Dating Era WOMAN HAVE THE ADVANTAGE ... Just about everything from Media, to Feminists, to Governments, to Job Employments give FEMALES NOW THE ADVANTAGE. Sure us Men will hype ourselves up by saying .. "She is not worth it .. if she rejects you ..etc ..etc" .. but the simple fact is SHE HAS THE ADVANTAGE and while we are psyching ourselves out if she rejects us by saying "Were men were suppose to be Rejected" (whatever that's suppose to mean)that woman that just rejected you is thinking nothing about you and ANOTHER NOTCH ON HER BELT. *Sighs* .. but like I said .. we have punked ourselves by saying .. " were suppose to approach" .. that now these females think to themselves God's gift to the world .. and now really is going to make it all the more difficult ... I bet if an Alpha figure were to say .. "Fellas .. f-ck these ho's .. leave them alone .. don't approach them because they mean nothing to you .. all they are ever going to do is betray you" ... and the men started following that line ... those females would re-think there position because now there insecurities have grown some more and will start re-evaluating themselves. They are either going to do that or turn out to be some Lesbian Carpet muncher for the next 4 years ... and that's when all those females will attempt to re-adjust there attitude with .. " Not all of us are like that" .. will start giving men more attention ...