iqqi
Master Don Juan
Someone hasn't read confident persistence...
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This is a good point/tip. It follows with the reasoning that there's nothing wrong with using a good lure to bait in your fish. A lot of people say "If a girl's interested in you, she'll make it obvious". Well I don't think they will always make it obvious, women do play games to weed guys out. If a person's idea is he's just going to try one time and if the girl doesn't make it obvious and easy then she gets nexted, then you're going to next a lot of girls and be settling for only the ones that pick you. I know I can't depend on girls I'm attracted to who pick me and make things happen without me having to put some effort into it.STR8UP said:Exactly.
At that point all you have lost is a few minutes of your time.
I'm all about walking away, making sure you don't "give her power", but at that point you really have nothing to lose.
And although I don't know if I would do it in this case, Bible Belt's curiosity idea is GOLD.
I sometimes chat online with this chick I know who is going to school up north. No doubt she's a typical college chick and is either chatting with two other people, or doing homework, or SOMETHING that is distracting.
I noticed whenever she's drifting out of the convo, if I say something like "guess what?" she will respond "what?" Then I will say something like "nevermind....i probably shouldn't say anything". By the time we go back and forth a couple of times I have her FULL attention. She's DYING to know the "secret".
If you follow something like this up with a JUICY story, something about sex, it's REALLY easy to make her horny as hell. Actually anything that is scandalous will get her attention, but talking about sex is the best.
I'm gonna have to start using this more often. It's so damn easy to make the generic statement up front, banter back and forth for a minute until you think of a story. Fun fun!
Imo, This is a point that we guys have to take note.iqqi said:Someone hasn't read confident persistence...
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Girls have all kinds of stupid rules and games too. Like "i never call a guy." Or "he has to work for me a little bit." Or they're just too chicken sh1t to initiate a call.DJDamage said:I say fvck it, give her a call what's the worst that can happen? Its better to know she is not interested then assume she is not interested, sh1t happens.
I'd start spinning plates. I don't think she's going to touch base with you too soon.Frank2500 said:...then I teased her saying I hope she wasn't doing a whole ot of cardio when she's as at the gym so that she doesn't end up losing her big booty, because I love it.
You know sometimes its the ego talking. Frank the tank has a rule that says he won't call a girl second time but alot of it I think is ego invested by thinking: "I am adonis, if this chick doesn't call me again why should i waste time with her, she should be climbing on high mountain just to be with me!". That's fine attitude to have but then again some other guy will be getting to butter her muffin that very night because Frank didn't even bother to call and she had nothing else to do.mrRuckus said:I don't think i'd call twice since I don't have the patience and i tend to just get mad at women for being stupid and say to hell with them... but i don't see the downside of a second call really.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
DJDamage said:But I will repeat myself, early on, a woman doesn't owe you anything. I believe that little rapport early on in the seduction phase (while getting her number) results in situations like this. So intead of just asking a woman for her number, talk to her a little bit more, get her excited about you and laugh at your jokes, tighten that part of the game that needs to be tighten and you won't worry about her not returning your call.
When they really like you their eyes get all sparkly. That's hard to miss.joekerr31 said:A woman who looks you in the eyes a lot is a women with very high interest level. a woman who engages you with standard eye contact (ie. looks for a second,t hen looks away, then looks for another second, the looks away - basically the same kind of eye contact that you'd get from just about anyone) will exhibit low IL behaviors.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Correct for the most part. But, I've had success with throwing out a text message maybe 10 days or so after the initial call. Something like "Are you around?" She responded and we went on a date. She had a high interest level on the date too.guru1000 said:Never call a second time.
Remember you are looking for you a girl with high interest or you are not interested.
Not returning a phone call, is a breach of respect. You are most important to you. Never compromise your integrity.
Exactly.DJDamage said:You know sometimes its the ego talking. Frank the tank has a rule that says he won't call a girl second time but alot of it I think is ego invested by thinking: "I am adonis, if this chick doesn't call me again why should i waste time with her, she should be climbing on high mountain just to be with me!". That's fine attitude to have but then again some other guy will be getting to butter her muffin that very night because Frank didn't even bother to call and she had nothing else to do.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.