Is It Better To Start Out As a Prick Than A Nice Guy AFC?

[mastersylar]

I have been thinking about this for a while. I think when you are getting in the game it is better to be a prick starting out than an nice guy AFC. Then tone down your ****iness until you get that optimal balance.

Here is why. When you start out in the frame "She is either going to think I am hot, or dislike me. However, if she doesn't like me as a prick then she wouldn't like me anyways. I have nothing to lose. There are 20 girls right now that want to have sex with me." Then it is very powerful frame.

Also, most of you guys have a lot of anger bottled up because of women. There are women that have not given you the respect that you deserve.

Listen, I am NOT saying be abusive to women or be so mean that you cause them to break down and cry. I am just saying that for guys that are socially uncalibrated, taking on the bad boy role and being over ****y, will make it much easier on the journey to becoming successful with women.

When you have been an overly nice person for a long time and suddenly start being the person that doesn't care, then it feels powerful to have that identity change.

What you want to do is rent a season of Nip/Tuck and Lost. Look at Dr. Christian Troy on Nip/Tuck and Sawyer on Lost.

Before you post a reply, I am not saying that being a prick is the answer. I think there is a balance between being a nice unconfident guy and being a prick. I think it is easier to get to that balance from the end of being overly ****y.


Any thoughts?

 

[WhtRbt]

I think I am in a transition similar to what you describe. I started out as a nice guy, but after learning and working on this stuff for a while, I think I became too ****y / prickish. Sort of an a$$hole. Now I'm working on toning that down to be more like my nice self, but with a bit of a rough edge and a totally new attitude. I can be nice, but I don't take any ****. Plus I know how women work now. So I have a huge advantage and can be a gentleman still.

 

[Maxtro]

One problem. I don't really know how to be a prick. I could try to fake it but I'm sure I'd get called out pretty quickly.

I think I'd also run the risk of being too mean.

 

[mastersylar]

One problem. I don't really know how to be a prick. I could try to fake it but I'm sure I'd get called out pretty quickly.

I think I'd also run the risk of being too mean.

Maxtro,

I would say watch a season of Lost and imitate Sawyers character. Just say to yourself that "you don't care if she doesn't like you".

If something pisses a girl off don't be afraid to do it. If she is ignoring you, grab her ass. You will literally feel the difference.

-sylar

 

[Maxtro]

I've watched every episode single episode of Lost since it first aired.

I can't pull off Sawyers personality. It's just not who I am. Girls would smell it a mile away. I can try to be less nice and sound a little more clever but that's about it.

 

[Igetit!]

YES.

This is exactly what I've been saying in some of the other threads. FIRST IMPRESSIONS are LASTING IMPRESSIONS. Now,I'd like to hear your definition of "prick",I mean,what is it you are talking about doing when you first meet her that would be considered "prickish"?

Whatever it is,I'm sure it'd be safe to assume that it would be something that would probably anger her,or get her a little upset. This will make the thousandth time I've said this,but here's one thousand and one:It's better to make a woman feel anger than to make her feel nothing at all. Women are emotional,which means that want to "feel". And yes,unfortunately,being a prick will stir up her feeling waaaay more than being a nice guy ever could.

I can honestly say that out of the times I've approached a girl being a "nice guy",and the times I behaved somewhat prickish,I've been far more successful being prickish. But I not longer do that. I've found another way. No nice guy,no being a prick/a-hole. I'll give an example of what I do that's worked for me. This is how I approached my last girl friend:

(This was at her job,at a register.)

me:Hey,didn't you used to work at so and so?
her:Yeah,I worked there for 2 years. god,I hated that place. How did you know I used to work there?
me:Because everytime I went in there,I wanted to talk to you.
her: (surprised look on her face.)
me:Are you married?
her:No.
me:boyfriend?
her:No.
me:Good. Then we can go out.
her:Woah,woah,wait a minute...
me: (interupting her) What? You say you ain't married,and you don't have a boyfriend,so what's the problem?

There. I did that from the getgo,from the beginning. Therefore the first impression she ever had of me would be as a potential sexual interest. I didn't go in all nervous and scared and about to wet my pants about asking her out. I was confident and bold,and went after what I wanted. And I demonstrated those qualities to her FROM THE BEGININNG. I shunned rejection. I knew she could have rejected me. And she knew that I KNEW that as well. But because of the way I approached her,it was evident to her that I was fearless and didn't care about it. If she had said no,so what? More than likely,I'd never see her again anyway.

To me,that's not being a prick,it's just being confident and agressive,two qualities that women want and look for in a man. You have to demonstrate what women want in a man from the initial meeting. In other words,you can't approach her as a weak "nice guy",then later on decide to switch up and be all strong and agressive. In her mind,she still sees you the way you were in the beginning. And if you switch up,now she doesn't know if you're being fake,bi-polar,or what the deal is with you. She just knows that she doesn't trust you because she'll never know which "you" is going to show up.

I don't advocate anyone being a "prick" to a girl,but reality is just reality. As far as dating is concerned,you will be better of starting off as a prick than a nice guy.

 

[WhtRbt]

See what I've been doing too much is instead of being genuine, I just rip on them and bust on them all the time.

Thanks for your insight Igetit

 

[Warrior74]

LOL. Like a buddy of mine says, "Act like Han Solo you focking nerd".

 

[CaptainJ]

I love being a prick. It is amazingly fun. And people love you for it.