"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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is it better to set up a date in person than over the phone?

drift_king

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is it better to set up a date in person rather than on the phone?

this girl i messed things up with: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166867

i see her on campus all the time cos we go to all the same places to eat etc so i have been avoiding going to them since i cleared the air with her last friday.

however it's been a week since that so she might have forgotten all about it and the good feelings she felt at the time, i've been ill the past 2 days so i haven't called to set up the meeting with her cos i wanted to be on top form, am i better off setting up the date with her in person?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Giles

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Dude you see her around lunch a lot? Well **** all you gotta do is talk to her. Run game but don't ask her out. If she's at lunch go sit with her and bring up an interesting topic but don't act like you're trying to just be her friend show value as a man don't stay for long periods of time leave before they do. Do it for like the next week or so and then suggest you go somewhere else to eat to isolate her from her friends. Then caveman her on the way.
 

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well i made the call and she didnt pick up.

did i leave it too long?

anything could have happened over the past week and its been 7 days since i had that conversation with her.
 

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Don't worry about it. Just leave her on he back burner and maybe she'll contact you and if not oh well.
 

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hm...I actually think a week is too short.
if what I understand is correct - your mistake was being too AFC?

I think the best solution to that is to just withdraw completely and start from a blank slate. if you pick up too soon she'll still consider you AFC

also, in the case you were being AFC, I think the best thing to do is wait for a n accidental run-in with her maybe 2 weeks later, then casually suggest something fun. you can escalate from there, and it will seem like you forgot about her during the time period (busy, dhv).
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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