"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Is it better to call or text knowing she won't answer her phone?

Confused

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I know on here everyone advocates calling as oppose to texting, however if you know she won't pick up her phone and won't return the call (she's cheap or worried about phone cost) is it not better to text then?

If you call and it rings and she doesn't answer is leaving a voicemail better than sending a text?

And is calling and her not answering then you sending the text 10mins later a bad idea? or would i be better just sending the text without the call?

I just dont want to get into a situation where I'm calling and she doesn't answer and i'm waiting to see if she calls me back or not.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Kailex

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Why are you trying to contact someone who doesn't want to talk to you (apparently)?

If you already know that she isn't going to pick up, doesn't it seem pointless to call, specially if she only responds to texts.

And why are you over-analyzing this so much? What's the backstory to all these questions???

Beginning, middle, end, NOW.
 

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This is a pattern I'm noticing rather than a story. I get a girls number go on a date, it doesn't go amazingly well to the point where she might have interest still but not as much and I see patterns in her phone/text beahavior. I don't know for certain she won't pick up but I'm fairly sure she probably won't, with that in mind I don't want to wait around for HER to maybe call me back when what I want to say can be done in a text although on the phone building rapport would be better. I don't want to become needy by calling then sending a text I.e. 2 points of contact. So would calling then sending a text straight after look needy?
 

boomerick

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Your whole mindset seems to come from "needy". If you call and she isn't answering she has no interest. Some how comming up with just the right phone/text angle isnt going to make her dig you. Date more chicks and weed out the low interest ones (like this kind). By the time you're done phone/text dancing this type of girl into imminent rejection you could have spent your time and money finding 2-3 others that can answer a phone. Over and Out
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I wont get in to how much BS she's handing you about "she's cheap or worried about phone cost" or whatever, cuz you'll hear it from everyone else.

A voicemail is better. If she likes you, she'll want to hear your voice. I know I'd rather hear a voicemail than read a text.
 

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horaholic said:
I wont get in to how much BS she's handing you about "she's cheap or worried about phone cost" or whatever, cuz you'll hear it from everyone else.

A voicemail is better. If she likes you, she'll want to hear your voice. I know I'd rather hear a voicemail than read a text.
no she isn't handing me out that info i made these presumptions dealing with HBs in the past where i'll notice a pattern of them never calling me back but will send a text to apologise for not taking my call or calling me back.

they are cheap and worried about the phone cost cos calls are expensive where i am unless you have a contract plan.

but granted i'll leave voicemails instead next time.

what would be a good voicemail to leave if i haven't called her for about a week?

the main thing you said was 'if she likes you' thats the problem, they dont anymore after the first date. its like you see a switch in her mind which has made her mind up saying she doesn't 'feel' it. i think im better off pulling back when this happens and act disinterested then suggest to leave and on the walk back to the station act disinterested (assuming she's the one first to act disinterested) that might at least counteract her disinterest and question why did he suddenly lose interest. i just dont know why i get into that stage where they lose interest. it's like u just know and sense it that the time window of opportunity is over.
 

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C-fused,
If you are losing your chicks' interest in the middle of the first date phone games are not really gonna bring their interest back up. Low interest level is kind of like a light bulb once its burned out, you can spin the generator as hard as you want and still the bulb won't light. Instead of working up a phone/text plan you need to focus on whats causing the dates to crash. The whole idea is to steadily increase her interest level during the date. Re-think your dates from start to finish and see if you can figure out whats going wrong or post a synopsis of your date here and let the forum help you figure this out.Your deal is the date behaviour not the phone junk after.
 

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Confused said:
no she isn't handing me out that info i made these presumptions dealing with HBs in the past where i'll notice a pattern of them never calling me back but will send a text to apologise for not taking my call or calling me back.
no they are just rejecting you softly, still keeping you hanging on... a girl who likes you WILL want to take to you - women LOVE phone conversations!
they are cheap and worried about the phone cost cos calls are expensive
just excuses/ womanise
but granted i'll leave voicemails instead next time.
what would be a good voicemail to leave if i haven't called her for about a week?
when you leave a voicemail (people often dont listen/get those either) you give her all 'power' as you are waiting for her to reply and she can give out all the BS excuses she wants...

You need to find some women who dont screen you and WANT to talk to you....
 
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