"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Is it better to be the one to break up the LTR or be the one who gets dumped?

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SO I know you guys are assuming well of course its better to be the one to break up the relationsihp but think bout this:
If you break it up - its possible to have separated prematurely when things could have been resolved and she might still have interest.
If you get dumped - then u know the options have been exhausted and she has no interest - and you can go on with your life knowing that you done have to go back to her again.

Ive always been told to let the women end the relationship? does that hold any truth

Addendum - one of my open relationship gf send me this message on facebook - Is she officially breaking up ?

steve... i need a break from us. this has nothing to do wit u, its just that this isnt the relationship that i need or want to be in right now, and i know uve tried so hard for me, and that hasnt gone unnoticed or unappreciated but i just cant do it anymore. im so sorry, and i know im gonna regret this and wanna be wit u again come school and maybe things will work out better than, i hope so. but right now i cant keep feeling this way and be wit u, its not fair to u. this has nothing to do with me and another guy or anything else, so dont look at it that way.. its just how i feel. im soo sorry. please dont hate me, u know i love u, i just have to do this.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It's better to be the one who ends it. The one who gets dump will feel like they wanted to keep trying.

And if I got a message like that I would end it forever and never take her back. She's saying she loves you but wants to be away from you. That's bull****.
 

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"I need a break from us" or I need space translated means I need a break or space to get with some other guy I want to bang.
 

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it doesnt matter.

the one who can move on with life and improve is always better off than the one stuck on the relationship.

this person could be the one who ended it or who got dumped. doesnt matter, as long as you can see that you dont need the relationship and move on with your life, you will be better off.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Raikojo17 that is such a wise answer. Im 20, but i hope to one day think like that consistently, instead of trying to act petty.
and MacDiddy I cheated on her 3 times, shows how much i was into her
 

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I don't reckon it matters too much in adult life. Howver in a school situation the one who get's dumped will find their social status fallen because of this. So in school it's generally better to dump them.
 

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It is MUCH better to dump the girl. Even though I officially ended it, I basically got dumped by a long time gf after she lost interest in me dramatically and started dating some other guy.

It hurts a lot, and I knew I should've ended it a long time ago. But instead I kept going with it, knowing very well that it would end. Well, this is how ended now, and if I could have done it over again, I would've stepped up to the plate and dumped this girl a while ago.
 

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Absolutely no friggin difference. Aside from the stigma "dumper/dumpee" there is nothing in it except ego and image. It's all about both your feelings when you break up.
 

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When she breaks up with you, that always means that you were oblivious to or ignored the signs that were there.

This is one area that most men need to improve on...identifying problems before you hear those fateful words, "It's not you, it's me..."

The signs are always there, but it is up to you to see them and identify what those signs mean.

It is always better for the man to break up. Women recover much faster because of their social network. Men wallow in it and rumminate about it for a long time.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Atom Smasher said:
When she breaks up with you, that always means that you were oblivious to or ignored the signs that were there.

This is one area that most men need to improve on...identifying problems before you hear those fateful words, "It's not you, it's me..."

The signs are always there, but it is up to you to see them and identify what those signs mean.

It is always better for the man to break up. Women recover much faster because of their social network. Men wallow in it and rumminate about it for a long time.

Completely agree with this. I had no clue that a girl I was dating for 3+ years who literally worshipped me could take a 180 degree turn in a couple weeks and start dating another guy. Definately good to see and act on the signs early.
 

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Bigworm said:
SO I know you guys are assuming well of course its better to be the one to break up the relationsihp but think bout this:
If you break it up - its possible to have separated prematurely when things could have been resolved and she might still have interest.
If you get dumped - then u know the options have been exhausted and she has no interest - and you can go on with your life knowing that you done have to go back to her again.

Ive always been told to let the women end the relationship? does that hold any truth

Addendum - one of my open relationship gf send me this message on facebook - Is she officially breaking up ?

steve... i need a break from us. this has nothing to do wit u, its just that this isnt the relationship that i need or want to be in right now, and i know uve tried so hard for me, and that hasnt gone unnoticed or unappreciated but i just cant do it anymore. im so sorry, and i know im gonna regret this and wanna be wit u again come school and maybe things will work out better than, i hope so. but right now i cant keep feeling this way and be wit u, its not fair to u. this has nothing to do with me and another guy or anything else, so dont look at it that way.. its just how i feel. im soo sorry. please dont hate me, u know i love u, i just have to do this.
Who told you this line of garbage?
 

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johnca2010 said:
Completely agree with this. I had no clue that a girl I was dating for 3+ years who literally worshipped me could take a 180 degree turn in a couple weeks and start dating another guy. Definately good to see and act on the signs early.
Johnca,

Just out of curiosity, what made her turn? Were you able to identify it?
 

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Johnca,

Just out of curiosity, what made her turn? Were you able to identify it?

Yeah basically we had been going out for 3 years ( I'm 23, shes 24), and she felt that we weren't very close together. She was right about that. She wanted to get with someone who was interested in a long-term, serious (ie: marriage) relationship, and ultimately our goals were not aligned together.

Rather than breaking it off months ago, I stayed in this relationship, and finally drove it into the ground to the point where her IL obviously deteriorated. So then she got involved with a guy who she thinks is marriage material, etc.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Bigworm said:
steve... i need a break from us. this has nothing to do wit u ...
The 'womanspeek' translation.." I want to break it off with you and I don't want to see you, or F you again. I have met someone else that I am more interested in . PLease don't be a pest by chasing me... however I want you to believe that I still have some strong feelings for you so stay in the background just in case my new guy does not work out ..."
 

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Best way is to go along with the breakup, if she is the one initiating it, and basically turn it into a mutual decision. Talk it over and agree with whatever B.S. she comes up with, throw in a bit of your own and then leave it mutual.

After it's done, walk away and don't look back.... no matter how much it hurts or eats at you.

If you want to do the breaking up, then just do it.

In both scenarios, you walk away with your pride intact.
 

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You tell us buddy, you just got dumped, how does it feel?

Would you like that to ever happen to u again?
 

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jophil28 said:
The 'womanspeek' translation.." I want to break it off with you and I don't want to see you, or F you again. I have met someone else that I am more interested in . PLease don't be a pest by chasing me... however I want you to believe that I still have some strong feelings for you so stay in the background just in case my new guy does not work out ..."
LOL, I've got to get together with jophil to make a hardware device, a "Woman-Speak" translator, using his massive database of "womaneeze".

Perfect for those "Honey, can we talk?" moments that we love so much.

Edit: Why on earth is the word, "womaneeze", when spelled correctly, censored on this forum?
 

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Atom Smasher said:
LOL, I've got to get together with jophil to make a hardware device, a "Woman-Speak" translator, using his massive database of "womaneeze".

Perfect for those "Honey, can we talk?" moments that we love so much.

Edit: Why on earth is the word, "womaneeze", when spelled correctly, censored on this forum?
Hey AtomS, what a great idea...A "Woman-Speak" translator. Can you write the source code if I contribute my database of 'womanspeek' BS...:crackup:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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