"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is it "beta" behavior if you don't care

Uncharted

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I've introduced a few of my friends to this site. It helps dealing with potential one-it is girls and keeping each other motivated when sarging.

One disagreement is how your actions are perceived. I've been on this site for a while, and I've loosened up on the "rules" and just done what's come natural to me. One recent example:

A girl told me she was busy twice so I just told her to call me when she's free and that if I didn't hear from her I would assume she's no longer interested.

My friends think this is lame because I'm giving her the power. My argument is who gives a crap, because I don't really care if I see this girl again. The one thing I've learned here is to never care about what a woman thinks of you. If I'm not thinking about this girl and just moving onto the next, why worry about what she thinks of you? She's obviously dumb enough to pass up a date anyway.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Overanalyzing is beta, not giving a fu*k isnt. You can do a lot of beta stuff and still maintain your alfa attitude if you are confident enought.
 

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Uncharted said:
A girl told me she was busy twice so I just told her to call me when she's free and that if I didn't hear from her I would assume she's no longer interested.
I would have left out the "If I don't hear from you, I'll assume you aren't interested" as that indicates you have a lot invested in whether or not she contacts you.

If a girl declines twice because she's busy and doesn't counteroffer, that's a pretty sure sign she has little to no interest. I wouldn't pursue her any further and certainly wouldn't waste my time contemplating power struggles. Simply move onto girls who put an equal effort into meeting up. She knows where to find you if she has a change of heart.
 

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I'm not pursuing that's my point. Who cares what you say if you don't give a sh!t and don't really care if you ever hear from her again?
 

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I agree with you. I have the same mindset. I stopped giving a sh!t about a lot of negatives things, including people.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Being carefree and staying outcome independent is the crux of game if you are at the same time pursuing women through approaches and escalation.

I agree you should loosen up on the rules and just use them as guides.

You basically nexted that girl you told to call you if she was still interested. Personally I wouldn't have told her to call if she was interested and just let that be implied by my absence. Either way you're unlikely to get a call but just going NC would have been the better route.

If you're interested you should have told her to let you know when she's free. It's fair that you nexted her after blowing you off twice you might have no longer been feeling it. My style of game I will continue to chase if I think there's a chance. I don't allow ego to get in the way.

There's a difference between not caring if you see a girl and not caring if things work out. I won't make time for a girl I care nothing for. Still I always try to remain outcome independent and of course you shouldn't worry what she thinks of you beyond trying to escalate.
 

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Uncharted said:
One recent example:

A girl told me she was busy twice so I just told her to call me when she's free and that if I didn't hear from her I would assume she's no longer interested.

My friends think this is lame because I'm giving her the power. My argument is who gives a crap, because I don't really care if I see this girl again
Bro that's not not caring about what a woman thinks of you, that is dumb.

She told you to go to hell twice because she is screwing another guy and you tell her to call you when she is done screwing him? She is laughing at you.

Not caring does not mean be dumb, not caring means do what it takes to get things done without feelings or emotions getting in the way.
 

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Your princess is in another castle and you care too much. That's a lost course and is beta.

If you didn't care for real, you would've gone ghost the first time she said she was busy and didn't counteroffer. She wouldn't be busy to get with Brad Pitt. Just like you wouldn't be busy if Katy Perry asked you on a date.

Alpha spins plates.

Beta spins a plate.

There is a difference.

Case closed.
 
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