"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Manonamission

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the last two nights I've gone out, I've ran into two HB 8's. I work A LOT, so I dont get to go out much. Anyway I spent about an average of 20 minutes talking to them each, and at the end I tried to number close. The first girl told me she didn't want to give me her number because she thought I was a player. I told her that she should give me her number and find out, adding to the fact that she doesn't know if I am or not. She agreed. Second girl said the same thing, I tried the same approach and she shot back with "That's the best you can do? I thought someone so confident would find something much more clever than that." I just got pissed off, smiled at her and said "sweetheart you'll never have any idea just how clever I can really be. nice to meet you" and walked away. She was eyeing me the rest of the night, but that got me to ponder.

Is it bad to be labeled as a player? I know some women love that, but I've run into it quite a bit over the years that women mistakingly think I'm a player...when in reality I'm not. Just your normal guy.

I also am an above average good looking guy, girls tell me that i'm "good looking" and "very handsome" a lot. That made me wonder if my ****y attitude may give off the appearance that I'm a player, and ruin my chances?

Thoughts on this?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Desdinova

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They both gave you a 5hit test. You passed one, and you failed one. "Player" is just a label, and you let it get to you with the second girl. Next time, just thank her for the compliment and continue on with your game.

Women don't care if you are labelled as a player or not. It all depends on how you make them feel.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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Desdinova said:
They both gave you a 5hit test. You passed one, and you failed one. "Player" is just a label, and you let it get to you with the second girl. Next time, just thank her for the compliment and continue on with your game.

Women don't care if you are labelled as a player or not. It all depends on how you make them feel.
ditto
 

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oh what the fvck you guys.

it wasnt a **** test, it was an indicator of something he failed to do - build enough comfort.

Remember MM? Attract-Comfort-Seduce.

He probably totally ignored the comfort part, and hence the player comment. If you want to do solid closes, you need to follow the rules. Even if they gave him the numbers, they still would have been flakes.

Live, learn, move on.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm gonna have to agree with desdinova and badass canadian. I recently had a girl say to me that "i must go out an pickup girls" all the time, a player. she still had sex with me a few hours later. The next night i was with 2 girls who said the same thing. its all how you play it, girls want a desirable man even if he is a player
 

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Nah, it's a good thing. It will cause women to wonder what it is about you that attracts so many other women to you. Naturally, being the curious creatures that they are, they'll want to find out for themselves :) And remember, chicks themselves, are serious, career players!
 
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