"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is gaming co-workers a really bad idea?

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By the way, I notice that there are no threads about gaming girls at work. We have threads about gaming classmates but never officemates. Or at least, I haven't found any. Is there a reason for this? Is gaming girls at work a bad idea? Is that something we should just avoid all together and just be absolutely professional at work?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If its just a job, and you're willing to deal with having everyone find out and/or the possible awkwardness should things go downhill, then go for it imo. As long as you aren't making the workplace unbearably uncomfortable for yourself.

If your job is your CAREER, don't mess with women AT ALL.
 
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Thanks, man. I'll keep that in mind. Actually I found another thread here about a guy who was going through the same thing and he got some really useful advice from some of the guys here. No, my job is not my career, but I will tread cautiously nonetheless. Gaming is much harder at work. You have to make sure the girl is 100% into you before you can make a move so that you don't end up with a sexual harassment case.
 
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