Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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is everyone on this forum just after a fuk?

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almost every thread or post i read is about tryin to fuk a chick. whats up with that? dont you guys date no more lol?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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No. There are a lot of us that like dating and kissing girls, and getting to know them.

The ones who are just after sex are more outspoken, but there are a lot of us on here with different morals/goals. We blend in more I guess.

Like anything else, sosuave gives you the tools, but people can use them for good or for bad....
 

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chance- said:
almost every thread or post i read is about tryin to fuk a chick. whats up with that? dont you guys date no more lol?
Well.....kinda..... sleeping with as many women as possible is my hobby. I still date, but with the intent of having sex with her later (that is the point of dating isn't it??).

P.S. and i don't "fuk", i "make love".

regards,
 

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i think it has to do with the average age for this forum being something like 20-22.

At that age, most guys are encouraged to bang as many chicks as they can, as well as begin their financial career. IF they're just learning about the arts of seduction even more so since they haven't had any before.

personally i wouldn't be adverse to a LTR, but at the moment it's unfeaseable due to my economic standing, plus this is the perfect age for me to be out there partying and meeting a whole lot of new people.

Not to say i'm not looking, a LTR doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, i hav eprospects and a few girls i wouldn't mind giving it a try with.

honestly, i don't want to get married till i'm 25-27. but in the meantime, why not have fun?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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daring wraith said:
... with the intent of having sex with her later (that is the point of dating isn't it??).
Really?
 

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Pretty much yeah.

At least that should be the forum's primary focus I think.

Considering the character its named after it only makes sense.
 

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^^ The same type of "enlightened" people who think getting married is an "evil, outdated institution." Suit yourself....

I guess we should expect to see some of these guys in their 60s and 70s, no kids, no wife, on the street trying to pick up 20-somethings.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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That's exactly right Don S. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to get into a relationship with a woman. The thing is, all of us here have that self-improvement streak running through us. We want the hotter girls. We want to pick who to marry, not settle with someone because there isn't anybody else.
 

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Not everyone on this forum is just after a shag. Some want LTRs or wives. I don't, though. I want some tools to make me more successful with people in general. I can say SoSuave has gave me an array of new tools which have definitely made me a better person, for which I am eternally grateful to all those volunteers (since the forum members aren't paid) who spent time writing those articles.
 

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I would think that when they first arrive they are mostly interested in sex because they arent getting any. However, i would hope that when they leave its not the only thing they lust after... but everyone is different
 

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chance- said:
almost every thread or post i read is about tryin to fuk a chick. whats up with that? dont you guys date no more lol?
I do not like dating in the conventional terms. I want to sleep with a woman as soon as possible so i can see if she is worthwhile. I've dated some very beautiful girls who were horrible in bed. In fact, the strongest connections were with average or just slightly cute girls. Simply because I felt enough attraction for them to want to be sexual but at the same time, they tried very hard to make the whole thing work.

I do not like a woman who wants to be chased just to hang out.

But once i sleep with a girl, if i felt there was something there, i will start hanging out with her on a regular basis and spend time with her to see what she is truly like.
 

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Darth said:
^^ The same type of "enlightened" people who think getting married is an "evil, outdated institution." Suit yourself....

I guess we should expect to see some of these guys in their 60s and 70s, no kids, no wife, on the street trying to pick up 20-somethings.
whats wrong with that? not everyone wants to get married, have kids and live "happily ever after".


no need to hate on 60 year old guys that have more game than you and can still bang hot young 20 yr olds.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Darth said:
^^ The same type of "enlightened" people who think getting married is an "evil, outdated institution." Suit yourself....

I guess we should expect to see some of these guys in their 60s and 70s, no kids, no wife, on the street trying to pick up 20-somethings.
You can be like Hugh Heffner when you get to be his age.

You just have to take care of yourself and drop your limiting beliefs.

Also marriage is just a cold lifeless government contract.

Its not love.

Love is you and a girl staying with eachother without that piece of paper between you two that guarantees money to the chick if things go wrong.

Marriage is all about money not love.

Since you are apparently a part of the true love and love conquers all pie in the sky optimist crowd here you should be one of the first ones to agree with me that marriage is just a piece of paper guaranteeing money should a relationship fail and is not actually about love.

You likely won't agree with me though because the programming you were raised with is so strong that told you over and over and over again that you can only truly love someone if you marry them.

Give me a break.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You can be like Hugh Heffner when you get to be his age.

You just have to take care of yourself and drop your limiting beliefs.

Also marriage is just a cold lifeless government contract.

Its not love.

Love is you and a girl staying with eachother without that piece of paper between you two that guarantees money to the chick if things go wrong.

Marriage is all about money not love.

Since you are apparently a part of the true love and love conquers all pie in the sky optimist crowd here you should be one of the first ones to agree with me that marriage is just a piece of paper guaranteeing money should a relationship fail and is not actually about love.

You likely won't agree with me though because the programming you were raised with is so strong that told you over and over and over again that you can only truly love someone if you marry them.

Give me a break.
There's something to say about the validity of said connection. People need something tangible, like a contract, and a ring, and a proof of "love" in a fancy wedding.

Marriage can be alot of things remember? just off the top of my head

1: vegas style quickie wedding by an asian elvis priest. Alcohol is usually involved.
2: A signed contract done at a government building.
3: A small ceremony involving close friends.
4: a huge gathering of everybody they know. (usually involves truckloads of presents)
5: Eloping, usually involves the government building as well.
6: Shotgun Wedding, Either the father of the bride or the groom holds the shotgun
7: Ray gun wedding. Like above, but ceremony held on UFO.
 

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You could have a huge gathering of friends to celebrate your relationship, you could give the girl a ring and she could give you presents as well and just have a ceremony expressing your committment and love for eachother without that government contract.

And people don't "need" things like this or even the actual marriage contract itself.

These things are wants.

Wants programmed into our heads over and over and over and over and over and over again by society, the media, and our parents until we are brainwashed enough to think that we want them too or think we will not be complete without them.

It takes a lot of soul searching without others whispering in your ear their own ideas before a person finds out what they really want and not what others want for them.

If a person still wants the government contract after soul searching then they are welcome to it but it still does not signify love it signifies that you have formed an unstable corporation with another person and the corporation can end at anytime leaving you with a considerable financial loss.

The corporation, that government document of marriage does not guarantee the love between you two will last.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You could have a huge gathering of friends to celebrate your relationship, you could give the girl a ring and she could give you presents as well and just have a ceremony expressing your committment and love for eachother without that government contract.

And people don't "need" things like this or even the actual marriage contract itself.

These things are wants.

Wants programmed into our heads over and over and over and over and over and over again by society, the media, and our parents until we are brainwashed enough to think that we want them too or think we will not be complete without them.

It takes a lot of soul searching without others whispering in your ear their own ideas before a person finds out what they really want and not what others want for them.

If a person still wants the government contract after soul searching then they are welcome to it but it still does not signify love it signifies that you have formed an unstable corporation with another person and the corporation can end at anytime leaving you with a considerable financial loss.

The corporation, that government document of marriage does not guarantee the love between you two will last.
True, but there aren't many people who can resist that kind of social conditioning.

You're right, it's a "want" that is thought it's a "need"

But just because we don't Need" it, does that mean we shouldn't want it? (i'm talking about wedding, not government contract) It's a fun time, and something that you and your significant other get to share for the rest of your lives (hopefully).

I can see how people can get jaded towards the notion of marriage and weddings what with all teh divorce and legalities nowadays, but a wedding is NOT a contract.

I agree that a government contract is NOT love. It's a social contract that gives a person something tangible to be exclusive, and usually indicates half your **** isn't yours anymore.

When the day comes, i'll have a wedding, but my wife-to-be is going to have to realise and understand that there is no way i'm signing over half my **** in a flimzy government contract. I want her to mean more to me than just that.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Also marriage is just a cold lifeless government contract.

Its not love.
It should be.

KontrollerX said:
You likely won't agree with me though because the programming you were raised with is so strong that told you over and over and over again that you can only truly love someone if you marry them.
What? Where did I say that? I love the "you only think like that because you believe everything your parents tell you" style response BTW. Rather than discuss the issue, you resort to condescension and personal attacks. real class act, man.

The reason for divorces and broken marriages is a new "modern" society filled with people who think like you do. If marriage is just a legal contract, it can easily be broken.

Next you'll say there's no such thing as love, it's just a squirt of dopamine in your brain or some sh!t like that.

I guess I'm in the minority here.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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