Is daygame sort of pointless when you have nightgame available?

[oliver109]

I think daygame needs really good game and charisma, even the best coaches have to approach about 30 girls to get one date and those are people with a bit of swagger and good public speaking skills.

 

[Serenity]

If you hate doing it, yeah. If you enjoy doing it even if you go nowhere, no.

Same applies for all game. If you're not even enjoying it then it's very unlikely she will.

 

[SW15]

I don't think daygame is pointless. That said, daygame is difficult. A lot of men who practice daygame often will practice nightgame as well because they aren't getting enough first dates from daygame.

 

[Tilex]

WHAT?!?

Daygame is never pointless, but it can be redundant if your city has a bustling nightlife scene.
You'll eventually see a pattern for nightgame or daygame the more often you go out.

 

[SW15]

once you're 30+, going to nightclubs gets kind of cringe.

Nightclubs are one category of nightlife venue. There are standard bars too. The difference between a bar and a nightclub from my point of view is the presence of a dance floor and a DJ spinning.

I find all nightlife venues to be better suited for more extroverted people. It can be more difficult to do any form of nightlife game at 30+ with alcohol and late nights. Nightlife venues also require a higher energy vibe, which is not a strong point for more introverted people.

Non-bar approaching is a little bit more peaceful and tranquil. It's generally better suited for the introvert. The introvert must have enough people skills to start an interaction though.

 

[NealIRC]

Think about it this way. If a woman saw a 10/10 guy in the day time, it's her loss if she won't approach him because it's not night time or not in a night club.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Another thing is that night game is best if you're still under thirty, but once you're 30+, going to nightclubs gets kind of cringe.

I beg to differ sir. College women with daddy issues love the mid to late 30’s set. At least that’s been my experience.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Nightclubs are one category of nightlife venue. There are standard bars too. The difference between a bar and a nightclub from my point of view is the presence of a dance floor and a DJ spinning.

I find all nightlife venues to be better suited for more extroverted people. It can be more difficult to do any form of nightlife game at 30+ with alcohol and late nights. Nightlife venues also require a higher energy vibe, which is not a strong point for more introverted people.

Non-bar approaching is a little bit more peaceful and tranquil. It's generally better suited for the introvert. The introvert must have enough people skills to start an interaction though.

In my experience, alcohol ruins my game. I am so unbelievably better when I am sober.

 

[SW15]

In my experience, alcohol ruins my game. I am so unbelievably better when I am sober.

Too much alcohol is not good for game. 1-2 drinks is often a good point for game.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I agree, alcohol can make a fool braver than warranted. When you work in the nightlife, you observe the most idiocy from drunk people, and after that from coked-up roosters.

It makes me even dumber than I already am

 

[Divorced w 3]

I agree, alcohol can make a fool braver than warranted. When you work in the nightlife, you observe the most idiocy from drunk people, and after that from coked-up roosters.

I had a new 21 y/o college junior from the same school as the one I hooked up with last year come onto me literally a year from the last one. I was ok, but the game was not where it needed to be. Also I am in a relationship so not going to cheat - but if I was sober, that would have been a chip shot. Booze to me is counterproductive socially.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Different types of women and different types of outcomes usually.

Night game should be used for same night lays only and then continuing FWB/plates from there. Any numbers or interest shown in these situations usually evaporates if you don't close the deal that night.

Daygame has a much lower close rate but the interest a woman shows during these if she meets up is genuine most likely and these have a much higher chance to be quality women suited for a LTR than nightclub chicks who are FWBs/plates at best even if you do turn them into relationships past the first night.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Its all Game.

Just different venues and types. Meeting a girl on her lunch break during the day can and might be a different breed then the ones you would meet throwing back shots in the bar at 1am.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Having done thousands of both

Night approaches are high competition , expensive and very energy consuming

Also absolutely no guarantee the chick is gonna remember who you are the next day because a lot of guys are going to try their luck the chances of getting ghosted are high

Day approaches , whilst much much harder too instigate if you get it right they award more a much more focused and interesting interaction

If you can make her laugh or smile in that first phase It will help a lot

 

[SW15]

Night game should be used for same night lays only and then continuing FWB/plates from there. Any numbers or interest shown in these situations usually evaporates if you don't close the deal that night.

This has been a change I've observed in attraction-seduction since the 2004-2006 era. I turned 21 in 2004.

Back in 2004-2006, it was more possible to turn interactions at bars into dates that could result in longer term relationships. It was tough to do that even then, but this has gotten even worse in the last 15-17 years.

In the 2018 book "Game", Roosh did discuss this exact this occurrence and the changes from the mid-2000s to the mid to late 2010s with this.

If a man wanted to find an extended relationship through a night life venue, the best possible options would be Monday-Thursday night after work Happy Hours from 5-8 PM. Weekend afternoons might work, but those are usually mediocre to subpar due to football and basketball games on TV sets at these bars. Football and basketball on TV sets tends to draw in the wrong audience for attraction-seduction. Most of them are too focused on the sportsball game to be in the mood for an extended conversation that could result in a date. However, on a good summer weekend with no major sportsball game, it's possible that a weekend afternoon could result in a conversation leading to a first date and an extended relationship.

Daygame has a much lower close rate but the interest a woman shows during these if she meets up is genuine most likely and these have a much higher chance to be quality women suited for a LTR than nightclub chicks who are FWBs/plates at best even if you do turn them into relationships past the first night.

Daygame has a lower close rate because it isn't a targeted audience. With nightlife venues, there's the idea that people are showing up to nightlife venues because they are single and seeking new penis. In any sort of daygame approaching, a man is likely to encounter plenty of women in relationships who are not seeking new penis, even if he's approaching in areas with mainly non-married people AND making sure to check hands for wedding rings prior to an approach. The typical person in a grocery store, mall, or outdoors isn't seeking new penis. Many men who do non-bar approaching will end up approaching a lot of those people and the conversations will fizzle out in 30-60 seconds. In most cases, the woman will not disclose her relationship status but her lack of interest in engaging is some indicator that she likely isn't seeking new penis.

In general, daygame is inefficient. For most men outside the Top 10%, swiping on the apps will also be inefficient so it's a matter of which inefficient option to choose.

I did provide a comprehensive review for a lot of the individual daygame venues in the thread about where to approach women.

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