Is buying flowers really that bad?

[thatfeel]

My gf spends an assload of money on me. Cooks all the time. Puts up with me. Etc. So if I want to buy her flowers for valentines(which I know is a consumer-tier commercial holiday)just because I want people at work to see that she is admired and appreciated, is it really so beta, desperate, and faggoty?

 

[El Suave]

She's been a good gf so why not buy her flowers? Besides, everybody at her work will tell her what a great guy she has. Works in your favor.

 

[Uncharted]

I don't think so. You are rewarding her for doing a great job.

If you're buying a girl flowers to try to win her, then it's beta.

 

[Epimanes]

If your doing flowers. Get them delivered to her work. This will make all her female co-workers jealous and make you look like gold. However flowers are more effective if you do them when its not on days like valentines day/bdays etc.

If I was you I would do something different on valentines day. Something that makes you stand out above the rest of the sheeple. Put some heart into it. Anyone can do flowers... Just go to the store and buy them. Add something with a personal touch. Maybe a picture of you two together in a picture frame as a memory token of one of your good dates.

Epi

 

[SeymourCake]

Only use flowers as a reward for their merit. Look at it as a dog biscuit.

Also, she has to take care of the flowers. If she lets them die, then screw her.

 

[rascal99v]

If you want to buy your girlfriend some roses, then buy her roses. Why should you be afraid to give her something in appreciation? Why do you think they have roses for Valentine's?

That's what being an "alpha" is all about. You do what you want and you don't give a sh!t about anything else. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then you go get another woman that does. Simple as that.

There's a phony "alpha mentality" going on here that says if you do something nice for your woman, that you are a beta, fag, or not a real man. Simply not true at all. Some of these guys have no clue to what being a alpha or beta really is.

A certain poster criticized men for "pandering to women" on Valentine's Day. Turns out that he buys women cards and roses himself. So, he's doing the same thing he hates on other guys for doing. He claims he's doing it as a "reward" but isn't that what the rest of us are doing? :yes: Basically, he's just a hypocrite spouting off a bunch of nonsense. :yes:

Being an alpha is being your own man. You don't become a follower listening to what other people tell you. You do what you want. You don't give a sh!t about what others think. If you want to text a chick, then text her. If your girlfriend does awesome things for you, then give her a token of your gratitude. Don't just listen to others that will steer you the wrong way.

There's a guy in my social circle who is going to lay low on V Day. Actually, he's being scarce this whole week. He wants to present a phony image of being a guy in demand to other chicks around him. Even though he is not. I say he's being a fool because he's missing out on getting laid. That's his choice to do what he wants.

But for any of you, if you have a girl or girlfriend that appreciates you, don't be afraid to give them something on Valentine's Day. Don't let other people make you feel like less of a man. Because they are doing the same damn thing. :yes:

Good women are hard to come by these days. If you have a good one, then don't be afraid to do something nice or buy something nice for her. Don't buy into this phony "alpha mentality" like some do. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then tell her to fvck off and move on. Good will women appreciate good things you do. It's not beta for doing something nice for someone. Being a beta is being a doormat and trying to buy her affection. You are doing it out of appreciation once a year. Don't listen to the bad advice that some guys spew.

 

[Epimanes]

If you want to buy your girlfriend some roses, then buy her roses. Why should you be afraid to give her something in appreciation? Why do you think they have roses for Valentine's?

That's what being an "alpha" is all about. You do what you want and you don't give a sh!t about anything else. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then you go get another woman that does. Simple as that.

There's a phony "alpha mentality" going on here that says if you do something nice for your woman, that you are a beta, fag, or not a real man. Simply not true at all. Some of these guys have no clue to what being a alpha or beta really is.

A certain poster criticized men for "pandering to women" on Valentine's Day. Turns out that he buys women cards and roses himself. So, he's doing the same thing he hates on other guys for doing. He claims he's doing it as a "reward" but isn't that what the rest of us are doing? :yes: Basically, he's just a hypocrite spouting off a bunch of nonsense. :yes:

Being an alpha is being your own man. You don't become a follower listening to what other people tell you. You do what you want. You don't give a sh!t about what others think. If you want to text a chick, then text her. If your girlfriend does awesome things for you, then give her a token of your gratitude. Don't just listen to others that will steer you the wrong way.

There's a guy in my social circle who is going to lay low on V Day. Actually, he's being scarce this whole week. He wants to present a phony image of being a guy in demand to other chicks around him. Even though he is not. I say he's being a fool because he's missing out on getting laid. That's his choice to do what he wants.

But for any of you, if you have a girl or girlfriend that appreciates you, don't be afraid to give them something on Valentine's Day. Don't let other people make you feel like less of a man. Because they are doing the same damn thing. :yes:

Good women are hard to come by these days. If you have a good one, then don't be afraid to do something nice or buy something nice for her. Don't buy into this phony "alpha mentality" like some do. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then tell her to fvck off and move on. Good will women appreciate good things you do. It's not beta for doing something nice for someone. Being a beta is being a doormat and trying to buy her affection. You are doing it out of appreciation once a year. Don't listen to the bad advice that some guys spew.

Quoted for truth! Repped even!

 

[El Payaso]

If you want to buy your girlfriend some roses, then buy her roses. Why should you be afraid to give her something in appreciation? Why do you think they have roses for Valentine's?

That's what being an "alpha" is all about. You do what you want and you don't give a sh!t about anything else. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then you go get another woman that does. Simple as that.

There's a phony "alpha mentality" going on here that says if you do something nice for your woman, that you are a beta, fag, or not a real man. Simply not true at all. Some of these guys have no clue to what being a alpha or beta really is.

A certain poster criticized men for "pandering to women" on Valentine's Day. Turns out that he buys women cards and roses himself. So, he's doing the same thing he hates on other guys for doing. He claims he's doing it as a "reward" but isn't that what the rest of us are doing? :yes: Basically, he's just a hypocrite spouting off a bunch of nonsense. :yes:

Being an alpha is being your own man. You don't become a follower listening to what other people tell you. You do what you want. You don't give a sh!t about what others think. If you want to text a chick, then text her. If your girlfriend does awesome things for you, then give her a token of your gratitude. Don't just listen to others that will steer you the wrong way.

There's a guy in my social circle who is going to lay low on V Day. Actually, he's being scarce this whole week. He wants to present a phony image of being a guy in demand to other chicks around him. Even though he is not. I say he's being a fool because he's missing out on getting laid. That's his choice to do what he wants.

But for any of you, if you have a girl or girlfriend that appreciates you, don't be afraid to give them something on Valentine's Day. Don't let other people make you feel like less of a man. Because they are doing the same damn thing. :yes:

Good women are hard to come by these days. If you have a good one, then don't be afraid to do something nice or buy something nice for her. Don't buy into this phony "alpha mentality" like some do. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then tell her to fvck off and move on. Good will women appreciate good things you do. It's not beta for doing something nice for someone. Being a beta is being a doormat and trying to buy her affection. You are doing it out of appreciation once a year. Don't listen to the bad advice that some guys spew.

Careful, you might break your neck with all that nodding going on in your post.

 

[Mr Wright]

It's not the action that is bad but the reasons behind the action.

If you're doing it from a non-needy place there is no harm in anything, if you truly expect nothing in return, it's fine. Supplication is not what you want to be doing but gift giving can also come from a place of strength, it's all about how you perceive it.

Don't worry about whether some guy on here tells you that you're beta, you want to do something, you do it. Simple.

 

[VikingKing]

I mean, do it if you want. However, I would only get my ex somthing when I was a drunken super a$shole.

I generally never bought her anything, she bought me stuff. At one point she was "hinting" how she wanted a ring, and she really likes the ones at goodwill, like the big grandma rings. Yup shes a weirdo, but I think she litterally would have been happy if I for once, bought her a grandma ring from goodwill for like 2-7$.

But I litterally didn't give a fvck.

When I started to give a fvck is when sh!t went down hill. However I was a **** a lot of times.

Get her one flower, if you honestly feel she deserves it. If you game a woman right, she will be thankful if you give her a tootsie roll.

 

[rascal99v]

I mean, do it if you want. However, I would only get my ex somthing when I was a drunken super a$shole.

I generally never bought her anything, she bought me stuff. At one point she was "hinting" how she wanted a ring, and she really likes the ones at goodwill, like the big grandma rings. Yup shes a weirdo, but I think she litterally would have been happy if I for once, bought her a grandma ring from goodwill for like 2-7$.

But I litterally didn't give a fvck.

When I started to give a fvck is when sh!t went down hill. However I was a **** a lot of times.

Get her one flower, if you honestly feel she deserves it. If you game a woman right, she will be thankful if you give her a tootsie roll.

This is what these phony DJ's don't seem to understand between being an alpha or a beta. You do what you want when you want do it. Not when she wants you to do something. If she is being a great girlfriend, then giving her something small once a year is ok. That doesn't make you a beta. If you start buying and getting her stuff all throughout the year, then you're a beta. You are buying affection. You went wrong because you didn't give a fvck. Then you started to care. She saw you changed and that turned to sh!t. A once a year token isn't going make you a beta.

I have a friend who is cool as fvck. Everybody wants to be like him. He's taking the chick he's dating out for a nice night. One because he feels she deserves it. Two because he wants a nice night out. So, he's doing what he wants to do while he rewards her. Just like I'm doing. I'm taking a chick out to a club. I know the owner but she doesn't know that. So in her mind she will think she's "special" or some other nonsense she thinks of herself. I will get laid and will have a great time while I bring her along.

If your girl does nice things for you, then there is no reason not to give her something nice. Good women will appreciate what you do. The sh!tty women will always have something up their sleeve to use against you. So it doesn't matter if you bought them something or not. Sh!tty girlfriends don't deserve to be rewarded. Good girlfriends should have something nice. Because you should appreciate that you don't have some skank on your hands. Any guy that says that's pandering is a misguided fool. People that follow along are just as dumb for believing that nonsense. :yes:

 

[LiveFreeX]

Buy yourself an Xbox and 2 controllers, also buy SONIC ALL STAR RACING. Every chick I've had in my house loves this game... my friends and my wife's friends all love playing this. We usually play 4 people at the same time but my wife and I love to play. Flowers are a waste of fvkin money... you can smell them once or twice and look at them and then what?

Fvck that noise... if you want something cheap and fun to do on Valentines day go buy MONOPOLY DEAL from Walmart. Its a wicked ass card game that women absolutely love. I used to play with my students and we'd sit for HOURS with this game. It'll cost you 7 bucks and you can take it home with you at the end of the day.

Flowers... way to show her you're a boring, traditional, loser. Listen guy, my wife is better to me than most women are to brad pitt, I always take her special places, like McDonalds for the dollar menu or the local Pizza place for a SLICE of MY pizza or the laundry matt to help wash MY clothes. She's not gonna remember a bunch of fvkin flowers and YOU are going to be out 50 bucks. Do something nice for YOURSELF and then go home happy and be happy around her and eat her pvssy for 20 minutes cause you're in a good mood, she'll appreciate THAT more than some dying plants wrapped in paper. If you really want to impress her stick a Mars Bar in her mouth while she cvms.

But for any of you, if you have a girl or girlfriend that appreciates you, don't be afraid to give them something on Valentine's Day. Don't let other people make you feel like less of a man. Because they are doing the same damn thing.

Good women are hard to come by these days. If you have a good one, then don't be afraid to do something nice or buy something nice for her. Don't buy into this phony "alpha mentality" like some do. If she doesn't appreciate what you do, then tell her to fvck off and move on. Good will women appreciate good things you do. It's not beta for doing something nice for someone. Being a beta is being a doormat and trying to buy her affection. You are doing it out of appreciation once a year. Don't listen to the bad advice that some guys spew.

Are you nuts, it is some beta thing to do... because everybody jumps off a bridge on jump off day, do you do it too? Fvck off... VDAY is a way for Hallmark Cards to make money and NOTHING ELSE. Its a day when women suddenly feel the entitlement urge coming on and stick out their hands expecting some gift from their local orbiting retard. The only thing my wife would get is my d1ck. She asked me "What do you want on valentines day?" I said "sex in cosplay, ok?".. done. Don't appreciate unless theres something she has done FOR YOU. My wife recently saved my ass during a horrible food poisioning incident, she didn't look at me like she deserves a fvcking medal for that... I married her, that says everything and its enough. The fact that you are spending YOUR time with the women on that day is ENOUGH. Bringing retarded gifts like flowers and chocolates (unless you are going to eat them too) is for chumps who don't know the first thing about women. They can smell chump a mile away.

I hate VDAY for this reason, women simply expect you to give them stuff and will judge you based on 'the size'. That is bvll****. Holidays like V-day were probably made by welfare reciepients. Ask yourself, what is she planning to get you? If your answer is 'her pvssy' then your gift should be your d1ck in a box.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMyNjg0NTc2.html

This is what these phony DJ's don't seem to understand between being an alpha or a beta. You do what you want when you want do it. Not when she wants you to do something. If she is being a great girlfriend, then giving her something small once a year is ok

FAIL.

 

[rascal99v]

I would do anything to get my girlfriend back. I lost her and can't get her back. I can't get her back because she is dead. Some drunk a$$hole hit her head on at 95 mph killing her instantly. He ended up surviving the crash after 2 months in intensive care. I got the call from my friend who is a cop and had to go see her mangled Mustang in the street while she was dead in her car. They thought she might have survived.

This girl was amazing. She went way above and beyond what any other person has done for me. She was a beautiful 21 year old girl who had her whole life ahead of her. She just made an NBA pro dance team and her life was just starting. She was a real special person and respected people and me. even though she was beautiful on the outside, she was kind to everybody that surrounded her. Not too many of those women out there today. I should know because I haven't found anyone even close to her.

Since she's been dead, I've been through a ton of chicks. Not one of them measures up to her. Not because I'm trying to replicate her, but the fact that most of these chicks are skanks and are not a special person. I would love to buy her something on Friday, to show her that I appreciate her, but i can't. I'm going to place some roses at her grave in the morning instead.

We don't know what life brings us. You could lose your wife to an illness or an accident. Then after you lose her, you would wish that you decided to give her something for one day out of the year. The phony "alpha mentality" you had wouldn't have been worth it, would it?

I know some guys like you who had their gf's leave them. Those guys turned into betas when they were crying to get them back.

Don't you fvcking call me a beta chump or any other guy that decides to something nice for a good woman. Giving a good woman something for one day that goes above and beyond all year deserves it. And I don't give a sh!t if she expects something or not. After all she did, she deserves it.

Does that make me a beta chump? I don't give a sh!t if you think it does. Being thoughtful for a good woman never makes you a chump. A chump is losing a good woman because he doesn't know how to run relationship properly.

Are you nuts, it is some beta thing to do... because everybody jumps off a bridge on jump off day, do you do it too? Fvck off... VDAY is a way for Hallmark Cards to make money and NOTHING ELSE. Its a day when women suddenly feel the entitlement urge coming on and stick out their hands expecting some gift from their local orbiting retard. The only thing my wife would get is my d1ck. She asked me "What do you want on valentines day?" I said "sex in cosplay, ok?".. done. Don't appreciate unless theres something she has done FOR YOU. My wife recently saved my ass during a horrible food poisioning incident, she didn't look at me like she deserves a fvcking medal for that... I married her, that says everything and its enough. The fact that you are spending YOUR time with the women on that day is ENOUGH. Bringing retarded gifts like flowers and chocolates (unless you are going to eat them too) is for chumps who don't know the first thing about women. They can smell chump a mile away.

I hate VDAY for this reason, women simply expect you to give them stuff and will judge you based on 'the size'. That is bvll****. Holidays like V-day were probably made by welfare reciepients. Ask yourself, what is she planning to get you? If your answer is 'her pvssy' then your gift should be your d1ck in a box.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMyNjg0NTc2.html


FAIL.

:crackup: More phony "alpha mentality" here. Did you even read anything that I wrote? Where have I ever said just to give her something? You can do whatever you want. If you want to take her out, then take her out. If you want to sit and look at her all day, then do that. If some chick respects her man and treats him well, then he can treat her the way he wants. Without someone like you trying to make him feel inferior.

If a chick is doing nice sh!t for you all year long, like this guy's gf apparently does, then she really doesn't need to do anything for him. He's rewarding her for the whole year. If you think that is beta, then you're an idiot. Here's what I wrote that you seemed to miss.

This is what these phony DJ's don't seem to understand between being an alpha or a beta. You do what you want when you want do it. Not when she wants you to do something. If she is being a great girlfriend, then giving her something small once a year is ok. That doesn't make you a beta. If you start buying and getting her stuff all throughout the year, then you're a beta. You are buying affection.

If your girl does nice things for you, then there is no reason not to give her something nice. Good women will appreciate what you do. The sh!tty women will always have something up their sleeve to use against you. So it doesn't matter if you bought them something or not. Sh!tty girlfriends don't deserve to be rewarded. Good girlfriends should have something nice. Because you should appreciate that you don't have some skank on your hands.

I have a friend who is cool as fvck. Everybody wants to be like him. He's taking the chick he's dating out for a nice night. One because he feels she deserves it. Two because he wants a nice night out. So, he's doing what he wants to do while he rewards her. Just like I'm doing. I'm taking a chick out to a club. I know the owner but she doesn't know that. So in her mind she will think she's "special" or some other nonsense she thinks of herself. I will get laid and will have a great time while I bring her along. Will I feel like a beta chump for getting laid on a free V day date? Fvck no.

There's no reason why you can't reward your girlfriend on valentine's once a year. And if you think that's beta, then who gives a sh!t what you think. You're the one who was dumb enough to get married in the first place. Being stuck to one woman. LOL :crackup:

 

[bateman72]

I think flowers serve a useful purpose. Send them to your gf or your love interest to provide social validation for her.

In other words, send them to her office or her dorm room for the other women (and guys) to see.

Girls are competitive....if you act alpha and she get her all "sprung" on you that's great. It is necessary but not sufficient, girls talk amongst themselves and you have to balance the alpha with just the right amount of beta behaviors to keep her comfortable and engaged with just you.

 

[adam225]

All this over "flowers".... OP, just be true to yourself and go with what feels natural to YOU. E.G. I think flowers are retarded (unless I'm jumping on them) - I will never buy them for any women as it's just not ME. I'd rather buy her something that I liked what I think she may like. My brother on the other hand does because that's how HE truly is - He is in a stable and happy relationship and isn't been walked all over.

The bottom line - BE TRUE TO YOURSELF. If you are a doormat then you'll find out soon enough and have something to learn from.

 

[El Suave]

There is also something in this thread that gets me kinda upset with you "DJs". Sure, reward her for being a good gf, make her feel special if she deserves it, but fvck, V day is the day for both lovers. STOP thinking the day should revolve around her. It seems to be the way of thinking in this thread "Let's reward her once a year cause she put up with us for a whole year"
BOTH sexes get rewarded on the 14th.

 

[zekko]

I think the only problem with flowers is if she starts to expect them, if it becomes a routine thing. Like if she expects a dozen roses every Valentine's Day or whatever. Of course, part of this might be laziness on the guy's part (Oh crap, it's Valentine's Day, oh well, I'll just get her some more roses).

You can get more out of being cheaper if you personalize things and put a little more thought into them.