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Is being a "sugar daddy" really just being beta?

MatureDJ

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I was reading this article, and it got me thinking ...

http://nypost.com/2014/02/09/sugar-daddy-website-has-coeds-rationalizing-prostitution/

“On SeekingArrangement, people are coming to find their ideal relationship. It’s about the connection. These men are shelling out $3,000 a month for a sugar baby. That’s not something that a man is going to spend for a simple, one-night engagement.”
It seems that the men just out out the cash, without there necessarily being the quid quo pro that a giving it to a 'ho would entail (although I would find it hard to believe that a man would continue this very long if the legs remained zipped.) I have to think that there is the whole beta provider undercurrent in here, where men are telling the women, "you're hot, and while I'm not so hot, I can give you a very nice standard of living", which seems to be to be what a beta basically offers to a woman.

Of course, maybe this is just prostitution with a veneer of respectability. :crackup:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I think whether it's "beta" or not all depends on the intentions of the guy, and the actual cash compared to his net worth.

If it's just a drop in the bucket to him, and he sees her as nothing than a "temp"

I could see some guy "renting" a girl for a vacation, knowing full well he's going to bang her silly and then be done with her completely, when it's over.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that those escorts are pretty skilled at "beta-izing" their clients.
 

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Mauser96 said:
Yes, it is being beta. It disgusts me to be honest. Men with too much money or too little pride.
So Hugh Hefner is a Beta?
 

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people here are so quick labeling everything as beta/alpha. why would it be beta?
if the guy does it out of desperation and works his arse off just so he can maintain a ho (some do it in the form of marriage), yes, most probably is beta.
but it can be done wisely ;) i have a plate / occasional FB who i help out sometimes (she is in a bad financial situation), and she does everything she can to make me feel loved. does this make me beta? i also have plates who are with me because they like ME. and i also help out some people without them sleeping with me in return.
and what is marriage if not an institutionalized prostitution with only one partner?
i earn my money to spend it on things that make me feel better, not to sit on the money. i think many of the naysayers would do the same if they had the means.
 

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Hmmm, well it seems to me that if you have the cash and are getting what you want out of the arrangement, this could be a good deal. I for one wouldn't mind having some hot, sexually skilled twenty two year old that I could fvck whenever I wanted, NSA and no effort.

Having the time to develop plates or fb for me is an issue; if I had more money than time, this might be just fine. So it depends on what you value more, or have more of to spare - time or money.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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MOTU said:
So it depends on what you value more, or have more of to spare - time or money.
exactly :)
as much as i love the excitement of the "hunt" and game them wyminz, sometimes it is tiresome and boring.
not to defend sugar daddy-ing, or the use of escorts etc, but there are situations where you calculate the time PLUS money needed to invest in a girl, not only for sex, but for a "relationship" and some kind of stability, it is far more profitable to just do your thing, for carrier and hobbies, and know that there are girls who for whatever motives (ex: financial gain) are reliable "friends" and when i put friends in quotes i mean sometimes they really can be considered friends, and they are really glad they can give you something in return for your help. it is almost like "love".
the problem for me begins when it is beginning to be bad FOR YOU. when you work only to be able to feed coins to a bytch who expects you to do it, because she is a princess and "deserves" the best. if you manage to keep the frame that is comfortable for you, i see no problem with it.
but i see men who's motivation of getting better are "so that chicks would dig me" more lame, and insecure.
if you have a pet with exotic needs and you have the means to take care of it, does this make you beta? or is the pet necessarily a parasite that works against you? like everything, this also depends heavily on circumstances and the way of seeing it.
 

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If the guy has the money, more power to him. He gets the p*ssy without all the other drama. Sugar dating is nothing more than organized prostitution. Nothing more, nothing less. And prostitution isn't alpha or beta. It's just business. Oldest profession out there, and cuts through all the other nonsense. The buyer knows what he wants, and doesn't take the long way through emotional and other garbage. There's no game involved at all.

I want comment on whether or not I think it's right or wrong, that doesn't apply to whether it's alpha or beta. Not sure of the legalities, but the way I see it, if a guy offers a girl money, that's their business. Who knows about the tax laws and such, and how that works.
 

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Starwolf said:
So Hugh Hefner is a Beta?
Hefner is not a sugar daddy, he makes more with those girls with him than not with him.
 
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