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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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is an aggressive kino style better?

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ne0phyte

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i guess this is kind of a calibration question too - how aggressive should one be with kino? lately my female friends have been introducing their friends to me and my buddies, and i've noticed a stark difference between how we approach girls. Both of us do the ****y funny stuff, but while i do light kino, he basically wraps his hand around the girl and is constantly rubbing her back. my idea is that my touch/absence of touch builds sexual attraction while his is just telegraphing too much interest.

what are your guys' thoughts? i know being aggressive/direct is good in pickup, but i always have done it verbally. is what my friend doing generally a better way to pick up girls, or just a difference in styles?
 

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Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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They are just different styles. Some guys can pull it off well, but you have to BE the aggressive touchy feely guy. If it isn't natural/congruent, it will come across as really creepy.

I'd rather get touchy feely AFTER the girl and I hit it off, not before.

I caution against trying to "copy" another guy's style or make major changes to your own style unless what you are doing is not working at all.
 
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I think what he does is creepy. I keep it light, casual and accidental like 90% of the time. And then there are times you can do all sort of fun things where you can get away with a bunch sexual stuff such as* and boob kino. But she has to be into it to begin with. Just don't act like you are horny, or getting off, and don't be intimidating or invasive. You just escalate! That's all. Little by little. The whole purpose of kino is to get a person comfortable with you, to bond, then to turn them on. Each woman has different level of what they may permit, as I know at least a few women who can not stand a stranger touch them at all, and there are others who will let you grope them right off the bet.
 
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