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Is a society's strength of patriarchy related to its homophobia?

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Russia winning as usual. Looks like that punch has some decent connection too. Good job.

Maybe the Russians are not retards and figured out faggotry (being environmental) breeds more faggots. Or in other words homo obsession and pandering breeds the train wreck men we currently have in the West.

I'm surprised you yourself used the leftoid shaming word "homoPHOBIC" btw MDJ. Can't say I know any men who literally break out in a cold sweat at the thought of pillow biters. However I know a sh!t tonne of fathers who don't want their children force fed the "gloriousness" of homosexuality from their teachers to TV to comic books.
 

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The promotion of the faggot agenda by the elite through their owned media conglomerates is a component of a systematic program of global population reduction....among which are feminism, corruption of the food supply monsanto etc, hearts and mind fatalism in entertainment

see georgia guidestones for the cliff notes version

if a few generations of faggotry and feminism won't do the trick rest assured they will lead us into the camps
 

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I fully support a masculine society but honestly I dont see the big problems with homosexuals themselves, surely I agree with you that any bvllsh1t the government and the school system spread on kids should be fought but I dont see a single homosexual sleeping with his guy as a problem.

Feminist is a much bigger problem since feminists actively seek to infiltrate in the gov to have position of power from which bvlly people, when it comes of gay instead its not them to try to hijack the system but its more likely feminists and leftists which swear to represent them.

So again I have no problem with homosexuals when they live their everyday life as everybody else, its just the indoctrination factor to be the problem.

Homosexuals become a problem only when they decide to join the politically correct brigade and unite their force with feminists and leftists.

Im not disturbed when I see two guys kissing on the streets while I feel the need to go cavemen anytime a woman try to push pc propaganda or feminism, given the chance I would beat much more an arrogant leftist bashing me cause I dont accept the muslim invasion in Europe rather than a gay guy wearing pink.

Also anytime I tried to get girls at the club usually their gay friends not only didnt bother at all but many times kept the fat friend busy, probably cause they feel I have nothing against them per se.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Who Dares Win said:
I fully support a masculine society but honestly I dont see the big problems with homosexuals themselves, surely I agree with you that any bvllsh1t the government and the school system spread on kids should be fought but I dont see a single homosexual sleeping with his guy as a problem.

Feminist is a much bigger problem since feminists actively seek to infiltrate in the gov to have position of power from which bvlly people, when it comes of gay instead its not them to try to hijack the system but its more likely feminists and leftists which swear to represent them.

So again I have no problem with homosexuals when they live their everyday life as everybody else, its just the indoctrination factor to be the problem.

Homosexuals become a problem only when they decide to join the politically correct brigade and unite their force with feminists and leftists.

Im not disturbed when I see two guys kissing on the streets while I feel the need to go cavemen anytime a woman try to push pc propaganda or feminism, given the chance I would beat much more an arrogant leftist bashing me cause I dont accept the muslim invasion in Europe rather than a gay guy wearing pink.

Also anytime I tried to get girls at the club usually their gay friends not only didnt bother at all but many times kept the fat friend busy, probably cause they feel I have nothing against them per se.
+1 :up:
 

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The Taliban execute gays. We should all want to be like them, right?

If you have a problem with millions of people at once, then that problem is with you and not them. There are gays who hate most straight people, which is exactly the same retarded bvllsh!t but in reverse. The homophobes and the homos don't seem that different to me. Hating people is a stupid waste of time, regardless of whom you have sex with.
 

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Homosexuals and bi-sexual spread most of the HIV and other stds to the heterosexual populace. Besides that another group trying to force their agenda on the majority. At the very least they should get their abnormal behavior to themselves and in the closet.
 

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I'm surprised you yourself used the leftoid shaming word "homoPHOBIC" btw MDJ.
Now matter what degree of ease someone has with regards to homos, this is the term to describe someone who finds that distasteful. I don't consider it to be a loaded term.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Homosexuals and bi-sexual spread most of the HIV and other stds to the heterosexual populace. Besides that another group trying to force their agenda on the majority. At the very least they should get their abnormal behavior to themselves and in the closet.
you forgot black people, for some reason, black people seeme more predisposed to HIV infection, wonder why that is
 

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Notice how the word HETEROphobic would never fly past the PC speech/thought police? It fits a lot of homosexuals and women and others that hate male (hetero)sexuality though.

Homophobic is a loaded term because it assumes if you're not for homosexuals than you are the one in error. You have a phobia or mental condition lol. You wouldn't call someone pedophobic, and the word homophobic has about the same invalidity to me.

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you forgot black people, for some reason, black people seeme more predisposed to HIV infection, wonder why that is
I didn't forget them and is part of the reason why I don't like interacial dating. But black people aren't the topic and I don't see a reason to take jabs at them at every opportunity. They are predisposed probably for the same reasons as gays are. Gay men are highly promiscuous because there's not the natural cap on the number of sexual partners that females impose and black men tend to be highly promiscuous. Also maybe they sodomize at a higher rate (related to being gay) or "go on the down low". Point is it's due to behavior similar to homosexuals.
 

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betheman said:
you forgot black people, for some reason, black people seeme more predisposed to HIV infection, wonder why that is
Not just HIV; all STD's. That's why I wouldn't knowingly bang a chick who has dated interracially.
 

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you forgot black people, for some reason, black people seeme more predisposed to HIV infection, wonder why that is
I think it is because they do anal a lot more than whites.
 

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The Taliban execute gays. We should all want to be like them, right?
Or homosexuality could just be the unspoken taboo confined to the bedroom like it was 50 years ago instead of the new screeching affirmative actioned minority continually praised as the new awesome.....or else.
 

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In history, most patriarchal countries / empires tend to ignore homosexuals or have a quiet acceptance (as long as it's behind closed doors) of them.

Don't think Russia has a strong patriarchy at all. Have you seen the state of their men?
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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MatureDJ said:
Here is an article about homophobia in Russia.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/why-is-russia-so-homophobic/276817/

I think we all know that Russia is still quite a patriarchical society, as are the Moslem countries, which are as well quite homophobic.
It is not "homophobia" to not want children subjected to propaganda aimed at pushing as many impressionable minds toward homosexuality as possible. You can't argue without slurs like that? Of course, if you could you wouldn't be a leftist.

"Patriarchy." :crackup: You believe in all the talk teachers in school tell you about "patriarchal" society? The Marxists who started calling themselves "feminists" and used that as another means to break up society, sure find no resistance in you. Betty Friedan, Margaret Mead, Susan Sonntag etc would be proud of you. One of the "useful idiots" as Lenin called people like you.

So tiresome to hear how we live under the control of the "patriarchy". If that was true, why would divorce laws be completely on the side of women?

And why do we have laws where men are forced to pay for an unwanted child, when a woman who is not a girlfriend or wife, simply a one-time sex partner, lies about being on the pill so she will get pregnant? It has happened over and over again that women do that. And then the man is forced to pay for the child for eighteen years.

Some "patriarchy" there.

The only "proof" of "patriarchy" is that men fill the top positions in most fields. According to Marxism - the basis for feminism - everyone is the same as everyone else, so any difference between groups or individuals must be caused by "oppression". It is completely unscientific B.S. of course, but it always finds an audience. The reason men fill the top positions is that men have more outliers in IQ, in mathematics, linguistics, and pretty much every mental field. Which means more individuals at the bottom end, but also more at the top. And they are the ones who lead their fields.


MatureDJ, learn from the "manosphere" instead of running your mouth about things you know nothing about. Start reading. The Rational Male, The-Spearhead and The Futurist.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

The concept of 'no fault' divorce by itself may not be unfair. The concepts of asset division and alimony may also be fair in the event of serious wrongdoing by the husband. However, the combination of no-fault divorce plus asset division/alimony is incredibly unfair and prone to extortionary abuse. The notion that she can choose to leave the marriage, yet he is nonetheless required to pay her for years after that even if he did not want to destroy the union, is an injustice that should not occur in any advanced democracy. Indeed, the man has to pay even if the woman has an extramarital affair, possibly even being ordered to pay her psychiatric fees. Bogus claims by 'feminists' that women suffer under divorce are designed to obscure the fact that she is the one who filed for divorce. Defenders of alimony insist that a woman seeking a divorce should not see a drop in living standards, but it is somehow acceptable for the husband to see a drop even if he did not want a divorce.
In rare cases, high-earning women have had to pay alimony to ex-husbands, but that is only 4% of the time, vs. the man paying 96% of the time. But it gets worse; much worse, in fact.

Even if the woman chooses to leave on account of 'boredom', she is still given default custody of the children, which exposes the total hypocrisy of feminist claims that men and women should be treated equally. Furthermore, the man is required to pay 'child support' which is assessed at levels much higher than the direct costs of child care, with the woman facing no burden to prove the funds were spent on the child, and cannot be specified by any pre-nuptial agreement. The rationale is that 'the child should not see a drop in living standards due to divorce', but since the mother has custody of the child, this is a stealthy way in which feminists have ensured financial maintenence of the mother as well. So the man loses his children and most of his income even if he did not want divorce. But even that is not the worst-case scenario.
The Bradley Amendment, devised by Senator Bill Bradley in 1986, ruthlessly pursues men for the already high 'child support' percentages, and seizes their passports and imprisons them without due process for falling behind in payments, even if on account of job loss during a recession. Under a bogus 'deadbeat dads' media campaign, 'feminists' were able to obscure the fact that women were the ones ending their marriages and with them the benefit that children receive from a two-parent upbringing, and further demanding unusually high spousal maintenence, much of which does not even go to the child, from a dutiful ex-husband who did not want a divorce, under penalty of imprisonment. So the legal process uses children as pawns through which to extract an expanded alimony stream for the mother.
So as it stands today, there are large numbers of middle-class men who were upstanding citizens, who were subjected to divorce against their will, had their children taken from them, pay alimony masked as child support that is so high that many of them have to live out of their cars or with their relatives, and after job loss from economic conditions, are imprisoned simply for running out of money. If 10-30% of American men are under conditions where 70% or more of their income is taken from them under threat of prison, these men have no incentive to start new businesses or invent new technologies or processes. Having 10-30% of men disincentivized this way cannot be good for the economy, and is definitely a contributor to current economic malaise, not to mention a 21st-century version of slavery. Sometimes, the children are not even biologically his.

This one-page site has more links about the brutal tyranny that a man can be subjected to once he enters the legal contract of marriage, and even more so after he has children. What was once the bedrock of society, and a solemn tradition that benefited both men and women equally, has quietly mutated under the evil tinkering of feminists, divorce lawyers, and leftists, into a shockingly unequal arrangement, where the man is officially a second-class citizen who is subjected to a myriad of sadistic risks. As a result, the word 'marriage' should not even be used, given the totality of changes that have made the arrangement all but unrecognizable compared to its intended ideals. Suicide rates of men undergoing divorce run as high as 20%, and all of us know a man who either committed suicide, or admits seriously considering it during the dehumanization he faced even though he wanted to preserve the union.
......Yet still feminists like MatureDJ here love to bring up the word "patriarchy" in relation to the U.S., Europe and the rest of the world. Somehow the laws stacked against men have mysteriously escaped them.
 

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......Yet still feminists like MatureDJ here love to bring up the word "patriarchy" in relation to the U.S., Europe and the rest of the world. Somehow the laws stacked against men have mysteriously escaped them.
Why do you call me a feminist? Because I used the word "patriarchy"? If we can talk about there being matriarchy which we find bad for society, then can't we talk about there being patriatchy that would be good?

You seem to have an irrational disposition. :down:
 

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I.think somehow he understood your position on the matter incorrectly. He seems to be arguing for the same side as you are. Maybe he's new here. Good post though.
 

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A bit off topic but that article that Wolfgang D posted was one of the most fascinating and eye opening things I've ever read here. Every man in western civilization needs to read it.
Uh ... I'm the poster. :box:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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