Pretty sure the last study I read said that the average height for American males was around 5"10-11 and in Europe it was about 2 inches taller. Either way, when in reference to women, it doesn't matter as much as you think it does. I'm a short guy and I seem to attract more interest from taller women than short.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Is 5'8 considered short for a male?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Colin O'Brien
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tom cruise is only 5'5"
DismantleRepair
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I'm Asian, 5'7". A bit shorter than my caucasian friends, but I was quite pleased with myself when our family went to the Philippines over Christmas and I was waaayyy taller than most people. I remember standing in a line for fast food, thinking "something's wrong here... wait! I'm taller than everyone here! Rock on!"
I'm 6ft0.75in tall (measured it dead accurately) and sometimes feel short where i live. That being said, there are 2-4 guys around who are shorter than me than there is for every guy taller.
My guess is the average English guy is easily 5'11. I do think being tall is a huge advantage.
But at the end of the day the biggest player I know, my uncle, was only 5"6 always had women.
My guess is the average English guy is easily 5'11. I do think being tall is a huge advantage.
But at the end of the day the biggest player I know, my uncle, was only 5"6 always had women.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Moofahsa
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I think height does wonders for your "inner" game, makes you feel superior to other males. Personally I don't see it as much of an advantage. I am 6'8" shoeless and I feel very out of place most of the time. I know it has its advantages, but when you are on the other end of the spectrum it is a hassle. Cars, clothes, no doggy style unless shes tall, always having a bump on your head from hitting it on a door frame...it is really a hassle. Only advantage I have noticed is no one forgets you 
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Wow guys, get the **** over it.
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