"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Introducing...BPH

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Hey guys, my name is Bryce and I wanna be a DJ (or PUA as I've been learning).

I've made some amazing strides with women since I started learning the game and I'd love to further master it.

About Me:

I'm 16

I play football for the worst football school in my state with a 0-30 record over the last 3 years

I don't believe gaming online will ever get results...

I'm a virgin, and plan not to be for much longer

I've read pretty much every part of the High School DJ Bible aside from the PDF files (no Adobe)

I'd like to become a better person, friend, and lover through the teachings on this site

What must I do to achieve my goals?

In advance, nice to meet you all :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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welcome BPH, you already a better man by disclosing yourself and taking action... you should keep reading on the DJ bible for more solid information.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: start taking action and applying what you learn INMEDIATELY in the real world.... this is key for fast learning.

approaching 5 girls during 1 day and saying anything to them, even if you get rejected, will give you more learning and experience than reading PUA material for 5 months and not taking action.

so the best advice is, read, make notes that speak to you, create your own openers, go out and socialize, talk to people, women, take baby steps.

start talking to women who are paid to be nice (malls, restaurants)
say HI to people everywhere, specially women.
start initiating conversations with every girl that you meet and take it from there.

as you gain experience come back to this forum and ask questions so that we can guide you in your mistakes.

good luck
 

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BPH... lol I am a nursing student in University, and I thought you were talking about Benign Prostate Hypertrophy. Turns out it's your poster name.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This next post serves 2 purposes...

1. BUMP

2. There's a girl in my school, one of the hotter girls that comes off as prude (she's a virgin). She's basically untouchable outside of her inner social circle, which is mostly made up of other girls and unattractive non-threatening guys.

How would I game her? It's more difficult for me to game girls I know in school as opposed to those I meet outside of it.
 

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Okay, I'll bite. ;)

You want to "game" this girl. What exactly do you mean by that? What is it exactly that you want out this girl? Also, do you know what kinds of guys has she dated in the past?
 

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What do I want out of her?

Kissing, relationship, sex ;)

What does gaming mean?

It's a PUA term I used to use and became accustomed to using when I want to sarge or approach a girl

What guys has she dated in the past?

I don't know, according to her friends she HAS dated in the past but I don't know anything more than that
 

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The reason I always ask is so that I can tailor my advice to the situation at hand. "Gaming" could mean lots to different people.

Now, you're 16. Your hormones are raging and you want to stick your pecker inside as many good-looking females as possible (I know, I remember!) And while you can't control your hormones, at your age it would be very beneficial to learn self-restraint as well as delayed gratification.

Trust me, at 16, you don't want a serious relationship. Sure, do the cutesy hand-holding thing that you young people do but do not go into this with an attitude of "omg shes my soulmate!!!1!1"

Learn and interact with as many girls as you possibly can. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this one girl (remember, oneitis is the path to the Darkside...) Learn what you like and don't like by interacting with as many women as possible. You are learning this material at your age so you're an extremely lucky guy. I wish I had had the same opportunity.

The reason I ask about her past dating experience is that young girls usually have a "type" that they tend to go for. If you don't fit into that particular, imo, it will be difficult to break her defenses and get through.

And if you do get together with this girl and have sex, for the love of God make sure to use protection. I'd hate for a 16-year guy to be potentially chained to a low-quality woman and/or with a child to raise for many years to come. You could potentially be on the hook until 2028, when you turn 34.

A year younger than what I currently am...

Good luck to you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well I know I'm not gonna fall in love with ANY girl at this age, I just want to have fun and **** a few

I don't have oneitis, this is just a very high-value albeit difficult girl that I'd like to game and ****

I'm just asking how to achieve this with a girl who doesn't give off much kino and is not as sexual as most girls her age
 

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You might do better in the high school section. Not sure, but it's worth a try.
 

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Sometimes it's just the way things are worded, along with the present mood of the forum. Don't let it get to you, I've had plenty of messages virtually ignored when I was first starting out. Of course that was when computers were steam-powered. ;)

Have you read the Don Juan Bible, and the Book of Pook?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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BPH said:
Well I know I'm not gonna fall in love with ANY girl at this age, I just want to have fun and **** a few

I don't have oneitis, this is just a very high-value albeit difficult girl that I'd like to game and ****

I'm just asking how to achieve this with a girl who doesn't give off much kino and is not as sexual as most girls her age
You're approaching this with the right attitude, so you're already ahead of the game relative to many people your age in that regard.

In regards to this girl in particular, her perception of your status may be a problem. If you're not getting kino from her, it's likely because she doesn't see you as a high-status male. So how are you going to show her that you're an alpha male and she's missing out on a great opportunity with you?
 

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Have you read the Don Juan Bible, and the Book of Pook?
Unfortunately no, I've read every other part of that Bible sticky. Thing is, my computer can't download the PDF file, it's missing some Adobe thing.

So how are you going to show her that you're an alpha male and she's missing out on a great opportunity with you?
That's basically my question
 

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BPH, its simple. High school game = social status. Right now, focus on becoming one of the smoothest, most known dudes in school.

Chasing 1 girl = 75% of not getting her, 25% chance of maybe getting lucky....and you know what, that's all good. Go up to her. Flirt with her. DON'T BE A DUDE WHO IS SCARED TO FLIRT.

Do NOT be that guy. Be the flirty, sexual guy. When people try to shame you (her gay friends maybe) they'll be saying "OMG stop flirting with Kim" or whatever. Just smirk and be like...."So I am, so what"?


There are 2 ways to game

1) Tiptoe around her, like you're doing..disguising your intentions and blah blah, using mental ju-ju to try and make HER come onto YOU

which rarely ever works

2) Accept that you're a guy. She's a girl. She's got pvssy. You've got c0ck. perfect! Hit on her, once every couple days. LET her know she's getting hit on. If she brushes you off....then keep doing it...and keep doing it....over a week..over a month...by then, she's warmed up to you FOR SURE. Boom. You got her.

Anyway, back to what I was saying

Hit on LOTS OF GIRLS. Much easier.

1) If you masturbate, STOP. 1 time a week MAX.

2) Hit the gym, make sure your body is lean and buff. You play football, shouldn't be a problem

3) Become more extroverted...join clubs and generally be in thick of things.

4) Most important of all...

FLIRT. With. Women.

Here ,read this thread, and get back to me.

I'm out

-HG
 

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Great stuff HolyG, read it from top to bottom.

Well basically I want to be everything Austin is with higher standards...

Where I am right now?

I'm attractive, I have a great smile, I'm very smart, I'm tall and every girl thinks I'm cute...

However I'm a virgin, I'm a junior, and I don't have a car or a job.

From what you said I want to know what I have to do to:

A. Gain higher social status when my reputation is pretty much already established

B. **** tons and tons of hot girls

What do I have to do to improve myself to that level?
 

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You are overthinking things man. Just hit on girls. If you want to bang girls, HIT ON them. It's not rocket science.

Just GO.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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