"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Interesting situation : Attration over the phone with a friend

turbo

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There is this girl from my AFC days (let's call her Nicole) I liked and she was someone who had a lot of guys approaching her. But of course, the AFC behavior led to us being friends. In fact, very good friends with a very good connection.

Then she later moved to another state and we used to IM quite often, but by this time I had dumped the AFC me and had become pretty good with the girls. Not that I was bad during my AFC days but, I was pretty AFC around Nicole. Later though, my whole attitude changed and the IMs I sent her were ****y and funny.

She had a relationship going at this time and then she started saying that she started thinking about us together and how we were right for each other.

Some weeks ago she came back to visit her family and we hung out together. One time we went to a club and she was kinda tipsy and later started off on how I should have told her how I felt earlier and everything. Later, I was sitting on a couch talking to mutual friends and she get all cudly comes under my arms and puts my hands on her hips and we were talking and I was playing my fingers along her stomach and the next day she calls me up and goes on about how good we are together and how things are complicated with her boyfriend and what not. We talked for a little bit. I did show some interest in her in that conversation but was careful not to come off as needy.
Then the next day we were watching movies at her folks house and we have some footsie going on and kino, and I was playing with the hands and she was too. After I went home that night I get a text asking me to call. I did and we talked for a while but it was more like friends talking.

This is not the pickup situation I'm used to where I keep it short and sweet to hook up. This is something where attraction can be created or destroyed. This is about a 40 minutes conversation we're talking about.

We have a very deep rapport but when I am face to face I can do kino. There is also body language. But over the phone I only have a voice, what I say and how I say it.

Please give me some input about what to talk about in phone conversations that are quite long (more than 30 mins) that can spark attraction. Something to keep in mind is that we know each other very well, and know just about everything about each other, so open ended question usually end pretty fast.

Any and all input on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

- Turbo
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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COD

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TRANSITION TO LIVE CONVERSATIONS...........unless she is totally into you, the rule is THE MORE YOU TALK ON THE PHONE, THE MORE LIKELY YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING STUPID............unless U are in a relationship.
 

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That is another problem. She's back in another state. I want to keep this one interested too, even though she's in another state. And I'm sure people will find the feedback on this thread helpful.
 

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Plan a trip... Either her to your place or you to her place. Escalate, isolate, and insert. You're not really going to keep a chick interested long distance. If you are the best way to do it is not talk a lot.

If you keep thinking this is special or as i like to call it "grandfathered in" then you'll never succeed. You have every right to just skip Nicole and chalk it all up to experience.
 
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