so i was flipping through the tube last night and came upon this really crappy show where this women was talking to her therapist or something. anyway, she was angry coz her boyfriend was a complete little ***** and he cried all the time and blah, blah, blah. as this happened she was so turned off by him, that the only thing that made her feel like a real woman was getting banged by a complete stranger in the bathroom of a bar. nice huh!?? but she made an interesting comment. even though the show was scripted, she said " men are the new women". bingo!! she is exactly right. the pussification of men in western society is like a got damn plague. men nowadays care more about weddings and children than women do. i felt i just had to share this piece of info . i love this forum
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
interesting quote from a women heard yesterday
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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Exactlry true... men are no longer in power.. women are.. and that is why women and gay men are such good friends and lovers to eachother...LOL
There are more men than women so there are many desperate men spoiling women, so women dont have to respect men any more cause for every dude they piss off there are 200 other men waiting to approach her...
There are more men than women so there are many desperate men spoiling women, so women dont have to respect men any more cause for every dude they piss off there are 200 other men waiting to approach her...
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^^^ not until women outnumber us.. the problem is supply and demand and perceived value...
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
To the OP:
I got one word in response to what you watched on TV that night:
"GOOD"
This means, dude, let all them other chumps be chumps if they wanna be. They can cut off their own balls for all I care. If a man can be put into the category of "new woman", then HE IS NOT FIT TO SPREAD HIS GENES ANYWAY! I am, and you are, therefore we have a job to populate this planet fvckin earth.
I got one word in response to what you watched on TV that night:
"GOOD"
This means, dude, let all them other chumps be chumps if they wanna be. They can cut off their own balls for all I care. If a man can be put into the category of "new woman", then HE IS NOT FIT TO SPREAD HIS GENES ANYWAY! I am, and you are, therefore we have a job to populate this planet fvckin earth.
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
So what about the new Masculine females?
Where do they go for help and change into a true Femenine Woman/Lady?
The masculine females are the inverse to the AFC.
Most of those masculine females really despise and don't resopect Men in general.
They resnet men whom aren't truly realizing their potential accordingt to THEM, and are completely adverse to looking at the realities that many men have had to face in their life.
This is not about identifying victims, or patronizing the hurt and misdirection of many Men, it is only to shed light that both men and women often do not see the benefit of seeing and observing the challeneges the other gender has to face.
And they are not ABOVE or beyond shedding light on their distorted identity.
The masculine Female resent s Men, becasuethey do no tenage HEr.
These manly females often rationalze this phenomena as these "weak pathetic boys who are scared and immature, and (wait for it...) are INTIMIDATED by a (You gotta laugh) Strong Woman!"
Incorrect.
Heterosexual men are not attracted to Manly Females.
End of story.
It's not intimidation, it's repugnance and confusion.
BUT.
This is how it can sometimes be for Women who are witness to the AFC 'romance" too.
Where do they go for help and change into a true Femenine Woman/Lady?
The masculine females are the inverse to the AFC.
Most of those masculine females really despise and don't resopect Men in general.
They resnet men whom aren't truly realizing their potential accordingt to THEM, and are completely adverse to looking at the realities that many men have had to face in their life.
This is not about identifying victims, or patronizing the hurt and misdirection of many Men, it is only to shed light that both men and women often do not see the benefit of seeing and observing the challeneges the other gender has to face.
And they are not ABOVE or beyond shedding light on their distorted identity.
The masculine Female resent s Men, becasuethey do no tenage HEr.
These manly females often rationalze this phenomena as these "weak pathetic boys who are scared and immature, and (wait for it...) are INTIMIDATED by a (You gotta laugh) Strong Woman!"
Incorrect.
Heterosexual men are not attracted to Manly Females.
End of story.
It's not intimidation, it's repugnance and confusion.
BUT.
This is how it can sometimes be for Women who are witness to the AFC 'romance" too.
Ha! Sex and the city "you go girl" type of chicks. Actually those are actresses, bad example.Interceptor said:
But there should be a balance between empowered women and predators.
I'm thinking about this. I remember you touching on this before.
AFC type CAN be attracted to dominant women, because the polarity makes up for the missing masculine polarity he has. The roles are flipped. Then as he becomes more masculine himself, and internalizes those masculine qualities, since he has those strong qualities within himself now, seeing those same qualites in a woman could sexually turn him off. The more of a man he is, and the more of a "man" she is, the less attraction HE would feel. Just like the more feminine and nurturing she is, the more likely she would be turned off by a softie AFC nice-guy. Right?
But don't some of those masculine chicks still like the dominant masculine man? Or would they run away to find a guy they can manipulate (until they lose respect for him and dump him)?
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
Yes, Reset. The majority of them DO.
They need the ULTRA masculine man with just the right combination of traits and qualities she needs to Polarize her. To influnece her Energy so that she changes subconsciously.
She FEELS somethign happenieng. And most of them are so far on the masculine scale that they can not even respond to the wussy boy AFC.
So only a guy on the far end of the masculine spectrum will do it for her.
But ultimately it is the Masuckline quality that changes her, and can make her feel like a 'little girl' sometimes.
She can be free to feel like the woman instead of always being the "Man". This manifestation comes from Her LACK of TRUST in men.
WHile it is impiortant to be nurturing and sensitive, generally speaking until you know the Woman pretty well, be very aware of your potential self sabotaging behavior.
Acting 'girly' or 'whimsical' is NOT the way to go. But sometimes guys who are out of touch with their masculinity presnt their femenine persona.NNd because a LOT o guys Do NOT understand ATTRACTION and how a woman's mind works, they try to RELATE (NOT Identify!)to a Woman by demonstrating woman like behavior and thought.
The basic underlying ofoundation og male/female dynamics is to understand the Polarities.
If THIS is Yin, then I must BE YANG.
If Men like this, understand how WOMEN view the same principle.
If most men like busty women, analyze..WHY?
And once you get a good grasp on something like this, make an effort to SEE it from the perspective of a Woman.
A theory could be, if we like hourglass figures, busty women, also petite maybe .then women must have a comparable a hard wired primal attraction image as well. What are those physical features that catch our eye?
what is it?
We could hypothsize that it is the wide V taper, and broad shoulders, and being tall, for example
That way we can begin to understand these mechanics, and get a better grasp on ATTRACTION from a primal sense, and we can then get this frame of reference and compare it to ourselves. If WE see it like THIS, then how do WOMEN SEE it?
If women don't seem to like Men who are OVERLY sensitive to their emotions, we need to investigate WHY?
What is it that a woman is drawn to?
"The Rock" Our Masculine Core.
Our Masculine strength, physical, mental, and emotional.
etc etc
What do we have that Women WANT?
What can turn a grown woman in to a "little girl"?
This is how we begin to change our Paradigm of US being the Prize, rather than Women having the Choices and Options and all the 'power'.
Men have VALUE too.
But it is up to US to Recognize it.
That's why the outer game path that so many instant gratification kids are on is so unsatisfying.
Because it lacks the fundamental masculine traits at their core.
Awesome post. Wow I can't believe I never saw the world like this before.
I'm seeing it too. The more masculine and "in control" I am the more feminine and "out of control" (good way) the women act.
I'm seeing it too. The more masculine and "in control" I am the more feminine and "out of control" (good way) the women act.
Me.Interceptor said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
Aniother thign we shoudl consider is WHAT exactly are men and women trying to get from their partner.
Generally speaking, the wussy boy AFC needs love, sinc e he cannot self love. He NEEds it desperately frm Women.
Thsi goes hand i hand with lack of masculinity development.
So he may look for a Female whom he hopes will validate him as a Man, therefore, a fake way of him realzing his Masculinity.
So he may look for a Masculine female in this weird manner.
The masculine Female wil still look for the ultra masculine man, and totally shun any responsibility for her mutated psychology of syurvival.
And she will often blame men and shame them for not living up to her standards. RIght or worng, it is happening.
Femenine Males and Masculine females.
God, do you see just how fvcked up this is getting , dude?
I am reading what I am writng right now and I see the aberration and distortion in so many men here.
Femenine males seeking masculinity who lack self love desperately needing it form masculine females who hate them because THEY need ultra masculine males to save THEM.
It is a total distortion of reality and perceptions, coupled with this anger and resentment for their masculintiy being STOLEN from them. and they need someone to blame.
Likewise, look at the masculine female. The bitter man hater.
Why does she hate men?
She hates MOST men because she feels they lack masculinity, and she was forced into develoeping into a manly female because she STOPPED TRUSTING men a long time ago, and wont respect them or trust them until THEY 'prove' themselves to HER.
So this is the 'shaming tactics' we see today, and the cries of 'immature boys" we often see to. It is because many women (sometimes rightfully so) see the mismanagemnt of boys into manhood, and the "squandering of potential', thus, leaving many female s to turn to Masculinity for strength.
And you see the inner resentment towards Men.
And the resentment form men towards Women comes from the rejection of their (lack of) masculintiy and manlinees.
So you can see why this stuff like DHVs or A3, or C+F is the indirect approach to dealing with these major identity and psychological issues the vast majority of males are facing.
I strongly feel that the vast majority of the motivation of the seduction community and PUA community is the NEED for VALIDATION from Women.It is an AFC haven.
SInce they do not have their inner psychologivcal issues dealt with, in a healthy manner, they use that energy into their leanirng of PUA.
ANd they seek to 'bang the hottest women! Only 10s!!! As many b*tches as I can!"
Thsi is pure immature boy -man thinking.
This is the nature of the Band Aid repair for the AFC.
Remember this:
Where we FAIL to FIND Depth........we "FIND" in BREADTH.
It is a dilemma. Actually a Crisis.
Because our children and our children's children seem destined to keep repeating these mistakes.
But hating on women or women hating men gets us nowhere.
Generally speaking, the wussy boy AFC needs love, sinc e he cannot self love. He NEEds it desperately frm Women.
Thsi goes hand i hand with lack of masculinity development.
So he may look for a Female whom he hopes will validate him as a Man, therefore, a fake way of him realzing his Masculinity.
So he may look for a Masculine female in this weird manner.
The masculine Female wil still look for the ultra masculine man, and totally shun any responsibility for her mutated psychology of syurvival.
And she will often blame men and shame them for not living up to her standards. RIght or worng, it is happening.
Femenine Males and Masculine females.
God, do you see just how fvcked up this is getting , dude?
I am reading what I am writng right now and I see the aberration and distortion in so many men here.
Femenine males seeking masculinity who lack self love desperately needing it form masculine females who hate them because THEY need ultra masculine males to save THEM.
It is a total distortion of reality and perceptions, coupled with this anger and resentment for their masculintiy being STOLEN from them. and they need someone to blame.
Likewise, look at the masculine female. The bitter man hater.
Why does she hate men?
She hates MOST men because she feels they lack masculinity, and she was forced into develoeping into a manly female because she STOPPED TRUSTING men a long time ago, and wont respect them or trust them until THEY 'prove' themselves to HER.
So this is the 'shaming tactics' we see today, and the cries of 'immature boys" we often see to. It is because many women (sometimes rightfully so) see the mismanagemnt of boys into manhood, and the "squandering of potential', thus, leaving many female s to turn to Masculinity for strength.
And you see the inner resentment towards Men.
And the resentment form men towards Women comes from the rejection of their (lack of) masculintiy and manlinees.
So you can see why this stuff like DHVs or A3, or C+F is the indirect approach to dealing with these major identity and psychological issues the vast majority of males are facing.
I strongly feel that the vast majority of the motivation of the seduction community and PUA community is the NEED for VALIDATION from Women.It is an AFC haven.
SInce they do not have their inner psychologivcal issues dealt with, in a healthy manner, they use that energy into their leanirng of PUA.
ANd they seek to 'bang the hottest women! Only 10s!!! As many b*tches as I can!"
Thsi is pure immature boy -man thinking.
This is the nature of the Band Aid repair for the AFC.
Remember this:
Where we FAIL to FIND Depth........we "FIND" in BREADTH.
It is a dilemma. Actually a Crisis.
Because our children and our children's children seem destined to keep repeating these mistakes.
But hating on women or women hating men gets us nowhere.
Wow yeah. So the dude grows up like you say without any real role models of masculinity and femininity. So he comes to the time when his hormones are going crazy and his body is saying "have sex with girls!" and since he doesn't know how to turn them on, he does something really logical (at least it seems logical) and sane---he asks the GIRL what he should do to turn her on. And since the girl is usually hooking up with guys who maybe drive her crazy or keep her awake at night, she gets frustrated and tells the guy to do the OPPOSITE of the guys who are driving her nuts and keeping her awake at night, so he does that-- and never gets the results he expects. And if he's listening to guys, he's listening to the wrong ones. Or worse, thinks they are "cavemen" and that he is evolved and above such things and that he's different and the women will seem him for being different. And gets frustrated. He's doing what he's SUPPOSED to do, and it's not working. It is frustrating.
Then you find the PUA type stuff and they introduce away around the whole thing, like you said. Gimmicks and tricks to create the illusion of masculinity and confidence. And since they don't know what the REAL thing is they are trying to "fake", they confuse any success they have with the gimmick or trick itself, and don't realize that all they did was create the illusion of a guy who doesn't need to rely on gimmicks and tricks.
So a guy without any self-love and masculinity, is ACHING for a girl. And the LAST thing he wants to hear is "hey man, just work on yourself. Set and achieve goals, build a life, get some genuine masculine confidence aside from women, actually don't make them your priority at all, then watch how you start to act differently and attract them much easier" and that sounds like WORK. So obviously you're going to want the short-cut.
So you use and apply the short cut and maybe you get the girl but then you don't know what to do or how to manage her state. You faked it enough to create some interest but now that you think you've "got her" you think you can stop playing "games" and go back to being a softie, then all of the sudden she doesn't know who you are, you tricked her, she's repulsed, she's out of there and now YOU'RE the one who can't sleep at night. Then the guy doesn't know who HE is anymore either. Fake it till you make it without understanding what he's supposed to be faking.
Not like I have experience with this of course.
All the things you do when you're confident, they are different from the things you do when you are not-confident. You have to create it. You can't see the reality when you're frustrated... you have to take yourself to the next level before abundance starts to be real for you. So you have to trust that the horrible reality of women is only horrible from your current mindset. Reality always changes to match your mindset.
I know I just paraphrased what you already said but it helps drive it more in my skull.
Then you find the PUA type stuff and they introduce away around the whole thing, like you said. Gimmicks and tricks to create the illusion of masculinity and confidence. And since they don't know what the REAL thing is they are trying to "fake", they confuse any success they have with the gimmick or trick itself, and don't realize that all they did was create the illusion of a guy who doesn't need to rely on gimmicks and tricks.
So a guy without any self-love and masculinity, is ACHING for a girl. And the LAST thing he wants to hear is "hey man, just work on yourself. Set and achieve goals, build a life, get some genuine masculine confidence aside from women, actually don't make them your priority at all, then watch how you start to act differently and attract them much easier" and that sounds like WORK. So obviously you're going to want the short-cut.
So you use and apply the short cut and maybe you get the girl but then you don't know what to do or how to manage her state. You faked it enough to create some interest but now that you think you've "got her" you think you can stop playing "games" and go back to being a softie, then all of the sudden she doesn't know who you are, you tricked her, she's repulsed, she's out of there and now YOU'RE the one who can't sleep at night. Then the guy doesn't know who HE is anymore either. Fake it till you make it without understanding what he's supposed to be faking.
Not like I have experience with this of course.
All the things you do when you're confident, they are different from the things you do when you are not-confident. You have to create it. You can't see the reality when you're frustrated... you have to take yourself to the next level before abundance starts to be real for you. So you have to trust that the horrible reality of women is only horrible from your current mindset. Reality always changes to match your mindset.
I know I just paraphrased what you already said but it helps drive it more in my skull.
good lord man, i think Socrates himself would congratulate us right now if he could!!! we are revolutionizing theory-based notions on a grand scale and i love it. im glad we have some educated people on this thread and not some dumb-fvcking wannbee pua's.
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