"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"Interesting night" part 2

The Comeback Kid

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Hey guys,

This thread is a continuation of this end of this one:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109032

This week atleast (after the cruise), I've done three workouts - two of the times I've run I've seen her, which is a little odd. The first day I said hey, but the second time was in a more crowded area and I was into my final kick, so nothing happened (im happy too...didn't want to make it like I saw her and had to say hi AGAIN).

ANYWAY, onto tonight's little exchange. Since she is still protective and I live in a dorm a mile away (literally), I was forced to use the IM. I came in, asked how she was, then tried out a little C+F routine:

Because we talked at both of the little organized events (we have a few more too) AND I somehow saw her 2 out of the last 3 days I ran (I had to delay my workout schedule a couple of hours both of these times due to sudden things that came up, so maybe that's why), it's only possible to believe...she must be a stalker!! (im just kidding obviously).

So, I explain to her how some girl is stalking me and while it's interesting and amusing, it's a little odd. I use SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of when this "stalking" occured - I even quoted something she said when we were talking on one of these trips (to kinda give the hint it was her - why else would she care?). I used a LOT of C+F and made sure w/e I did, not to give her any positive comments/compliments or start drifting from my story.

She played along with the entire thing (and gave detailed responses, which beats one-word answers - also was teasing that I may be the one stalking lol...this obivously isn't true), but then all of a sudden she says "You and the stalker you are having all these coincidences with may work out as friends." My facial expression here was like :eek: . How the h*ll could she have atleast thought this was me "liking her?" (more in this at the bottom, where there is a star). Basically I kept playing out the whole "stalker" thing like I had no clue what she was inferring and "of course" being friends is fine. Actually, it really is...I don't want/need a gf the 2nd week in college where there are MANY HB's and even having a cool chick friend as social proof OR as a FB if it comes to that is OK too.

*OK, I do NOT like her. I did however, view her as someone to get to know better. In HS, I didn't know a lot of chicks real well, so establishing this in college seems like a good deal - I'm going to need to know atleast a few HB's well for things down the road (not dating, but other things...ways to get into parties, dates to dances, etc.).
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The Comeback Kid

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Obviously, one of my questions here, other than what that little exchange means (which I need cliarification/analysis of too lol), is HOW DID SHE THINK I "LIKED" HER? I'll admit I gave off a couple vibes and would consider a date w/ he rif she asked me, but I am in no way looking LTR right now.

Possibilities:

1.) She is just very smart and great at picking things up with guys. No I was not thinking LTR again, but a date...perhaps.

2.) I let something slip during this recent IM exchange. This did not happen, so I'm counting it out. I gave exactly 0 compliments.

3.) I gave a clue prior to this. Probably is the answer, but I'm not sure where or when. The first time I met her in person, I may have talked a little more than I wanted to b/c I didn't really know anyone else there and some other guy was trying to bump me away from her so he could be the one talking to her, so I got a little competitive. Also, when I'd talk to her, if I was going up to her, a little kino, like an arm/shoulder tap would occur.

IN ADDITION, at the time last week, we were made aware of how cool intramural football was, espcially co-ed. Knowing she used to play a sport or two in HS, I asked what she thought of the idea. She said maybe at the time (I eventually decided to screw that idea and make a team w/ guys on my floor), but perhaps this was what may have given it away?

What do you think? Is she just very smart, or did TCK flash his hand too soon?
 

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C'mon guys...it's mainly what I posted in this thread that matters (the othe ris background).

Any help here I would really appreciate, and I feel it can really help. I want to know exactly what this means and how I should play things hereafter.

P.S. I just had a HUGE 400-person lecture class (assigned seats + attendance taken). On the way out, who do I happen to run into...again (we said hi)? :yes:
 

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The Comeback Kid said:
She played along with the entire thing (and gave detailed responses, which beats one-word answers - also was teasing that I may be the one stalking lol...this obivously isn't true), but then all of a sudden she says "You and the stalker you are having all these coincidences with may work out as friends." My facial expression here was like :eek: . How the h*ll could she have atleast thought this was me "liking her?" (more in this at the bottom, where there is a star). Basically I kept playing out the whole "stalker" thing like I had no clue what she was inferring and "of course" being friends is fine. Actually, it really is...I don't want/need a gf the 2nd week in college where there are MANY HB's and even having a cool chick friend as social proof OR as a FB if it comes to that is OK too.
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You was flirting with her, been c+f in your own words, saying hi to her when you saw her, if you didn't like her then why would you do this? making out she was stalking you, it sounds pretty much like you like her..you was flirtin, you gave her the impression you did, dont get what your so shocked about
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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onyx said:
You was flirting with her, been c+f in your own words, saying hi to her when you saw her, if you didn't like her then why would you do this? making out she was stalking you, it sounds pretty much like you like her..you was flirtin, you gave her the impression you did, dont get what your so shocked about
I'll break this down (easier to analyze):

-Well of course I was flirting with her lol. BUT guys flirt with more than one girl in particular (goes back to that whole "don't put all you eggs in oen basket" deal).

-I said hi to her once (but then again the few times I IMed, I started them most of the time). The two organized events I don't really include here because we both saw each other at the same time and it was HER who said "hi". The one time I said hi to her was when I was running. Today, we both made eye contact and were close to each other, so a "hi" had to be said by someone (I think we both said it).

-You are correct in that I gave an impression that I "like" her, but nothing I did was conclusive - basically, there is not one thing here you can point to and say "that was it".

I know I come out as defensive here, but I'm not trying to be...it's just the way I analyze things when I break them down like this. I appreciate your thoughts though onyx.
 
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