MatureDJ
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There is a shortage of men in those countries. Physical shortage. Then there is a shortage of eligible men, which makes it an even bigger problem for the women. They lead a hard life and most people who do have jobs earn enough to survive. The men drink hard, do a lot of drugs and smoke heavily. The way they treat their women though will come as a shock to most people.Duffdog said:The main issue with eastern Europe is that there are 3 hot girls for every guy. Of course the girls will fight and get mad and everything will be the guys fault if there is a shortage of males. In the US we have the opposite problem, there are all kinds of women, but only a few are attractive. So naturally, we have PUA websites in the US and lots of good looking guys dating fat chics because thats what we have over here. Women in Russia and the Ukraine can't really afford to become fat, there is a much smaller percentage of out of shape women in Eastern Europe.
Mikeraw-- I agree with what you are saying, some of my friends from Russia treat women as if they are disposable...because they are disposable in that part of the world. There's a huge abundance of attractive females and you can pretty much do whatever you want and a line of them will form waiting their turn for you to abuse them and move on to the next one.
I have seen you mention this a few times. Learn to speak and read Russian if you are serious about doing it. I would also consider smaller towns outside the major city centers. Dont know how much of Eastern Europe you have seen but if you can settle near the Black Sea with a bit of money and the ability to speak the local language? You will be happier then a pig in ****.STR8UP said:And here I thought I was going to retire to eastern Europe at age 45 to marry a yet-to-be-discovered 22yo supermodel
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Not enough.Hooligan Harry said:Dont know how much of Eastern Europe you have seen but if you can settle near the Black Sea with a bit of money and the ability to speak the local language? You will be happier then a pig in ****.
But, while her perspective on marriage was somewhat objective, it is still decidedly female. I think this highlights how women will always see marriage differently from men.Women invent various signs and actions which men are supposed to perform to demonstrate their love or interest. And here I’m talking about all women in general.
Ok, we can level with that.But when they fall in love and their biological clock tells them that it’s time for reproduction, emancipation and independence vanishes....But emancipation is one thing and biology is another. And you cannot fool nature, unless surgery and hormone therapy are involved. Feminists, sportswomen, pianists, lesbians, tennis players and porn stars – they all still have periods once a month and they sometimes get moody and at 34 their biological clock is still ticking, no mater how independent, rich, beautiful and mature they were at the age of 25.
Ahhh, there it is. That latent female schema comes out.I agree that marriage is not important for a family, but what if it’s the only way to prove that someone really cares about you and is not just passing time while waiting for someone better?
Did you notice in the article the woman said:mikeraw said:I hear that women in the Ukraine get treated very poorly by their men. And I don't mean encouraged to keep silent while men speak or things of the sort... I mean outright violence in public. A colleague of mine recently transfered over there says that any man with the slightest hint of manners, as most Westerners are, will land a dozen chicks in one week. They FIGHT each other to be with a Westerner...
I'm not familiar with the culture over there, but she says "despite their American passports", and that implies to me that normally being American has some kind of elevated value.and amazingly unattractive men, who, despite their American passports seemed all to have the Slavic male syndrome (plus Ben Affleck, but he is just so 1998).
Which irritates me no end when the western **** we live with daily talk these women down. Eastern European women are all gold digging, passport hunting *****s that dont understand the way of the world. They also all look like they were in the Olympic shot-put team. Its men and women that do it too. The manginas climb into it.Str8up said:It's amazing to experience the social dynamic at play when your status increases tenfold just by visiting another country. And especially considering the fact that many of these women are stunningly beautiful, cultured, articulate, and have interests that include more than tanning and shoe shopping.
I think it would be ADDICTIVE to live over there. I don't think I would want to come home. Seriously
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.