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Anatrinah

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Hey guys, long-time lurker, first time poster.

Here is my situation:

In the past three months, I've started hanging out at one of my friend's houses again. Since I've been back, there is a particular woman who hangs out there nearly everyday as well who appears to show interest in me, but is inconsistent as well. For instance, every time that we're around each other, which typically happens in a group of 3-8 people, she won't stop laughing at my jokes and constantly talks about how funny I am. After around a week or two of this, I sent her an IM and asked her if she was interested in hanging out at some point. She didn't respond, so I sent her the following, "I'm sorry, that was really dumb of me." She responded with, "What?! No it wasn't??" Later on that day I received a phone call from her (keep in mind, I hadn't given her my phone number) asking me to get her some "beverages." Prior to my message, she had never requested me to do this before. She picked me up and we had a fairly stimulating conversation there and back. The topic of me asking her out never arose, and there were awkward silences, but it wasn't too bad. I asked my friend, the owner of the house, what she had said about me. Apparently, she claimed I wasn't her type, but that I had good conversations with her. Following that instance, we didn't talk for two weeks, as she had left town. Upon her return, she was once again flirtatious and continued telling me how funny I was, and listened to every word I said when I was around. Whenever I didn't want to participate in activities that the majority of the group was doing, she would give me flack until I followed the herd. Furthermore, in a series of three days she IMed me twice asking if I could purchase her beverages again. She wanted the same type of drinks again, which was a very small order and almost not worth the trip. She also offered to provide me with a commission for every time I gave her the service. On the second trip, we stopped by her house because she was having an "anxiety attack," and proceeded to watch a television episode before departing. I told her that I didn't want things to be awkward around us because I had asked her out. She responded with, "I didn't think it was awkward at all. If I thought it was awkward, do you think I would be here right now?"

Anyways, She still continues to flirt with me, but I'm not sure of her motive. I can't tell if she is using me because of the services I provide, or if she uses these trips as an excuse to be alone together (as there isn't much space at given friend's house to be alone). She flirts with some of the other guys at the house a little bit, but gives the most attention to me. Anyways, what kind of insight would you guys provide to this situation? Sorry for the novel, and thanks in advance!
 

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Say no next time she wants you to bring her stinks and then see how she reacts.
If she gets all upset and b1tchy, you know she's an attention wh0re. If she's cool, she may be interested.
The easiest way to know is to just fvcking ask her out again.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
something wrong with this girl
This is valid. Take heed before you fall in too deep with this chick. Protect yourself before all else, brotha. I'd say try to be a little more assertive, but don't become her orbiter... sounds like that could happen pretty easily.
 

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1. Never apologize for asking a woman out or for any show of respectful sexual interest in a woman. Resolve right now to never again do that in your life. If you get nothing else from this post, take this. Your sexual attention is the greatest gift you can give a newly met woman. If she doesn't value that or throws tude? good screen and move on to better quality. Quality women handle sexual attention well, whether their decision is yea, maybe or nay, and you don't want to waste a minute on the low quality who don't. We can't apply that test accurately when we apologize for being a normal, human man. This is in no way telling you to be crude or disrespectful.
2. Never ask a woman out via IM or text. Always call them on the phone with a cool, light date plan that is near them and only takes up to 3 hours, no more. Never "hang out," "want to get a drink sometime?" "watch tv," etc. Always specific, always light and cool, always easy for them to do.
3. If she says "no," VM and no return, or waffles or gives an excuse without offering a firm alternative, wait a week or so and ask her out for another specific thing. Never show ANY emotions here, light, cool, still flirty, in control, even if you don't get the answer you want. If she doesn't enthusiastically agree to do that, then that's it, do not ask again. Keep this process binary and simple to avoid lots of stress and angst.
4. While around women you are interested in, use humor sparingly. Too much looks like supplicating or trying to win their attention/affection, which turns them off. Exception: Kino. If a woman starts touching you, moving into your space, pressing her chest or hip into you, keep doing whatever you are doing. Every other kind of response, "you so funny!" screaming laughter even? Stay light on the humor.
5. When you meet an interesting woman through friends or hanging out somewhere, make an impression on her in some way, and then absent yourself. Women will almost never pick "the guy who is always hanging with the crowd," but the guy who is there intermittently, then gone, then gets in touch with her in other ways. Seen this principle work many times, both to my advantage and detriment.

No idea what "her type" is but in all likelihood she doesn't/didn't find you physically attractive, but is still willing to -use- you for favors and attention. The way you short-circuit that failing in many women, even good ones, is to not play. You play -your- game in accordance with -your- goals, not her "get me some drinks and hang out" game. Her game is bullsh-t and doesn't lead you where you want to go, is a waste of your time 90% of the time, and even in those 10% instances where she does get drunk and hook up with you, doesn't mean she respects of values you. Let her go get her drinks and hang out with her GFs. Interactions with you are in accordance with -your- plans. Good luck.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hey guys! Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. I'm going to continue as normal and Greasy Pig's advice to see where that takes me.
 

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She's interested in you as just a friend. Because since you're giving her drinks, you're not completely useless.
 

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she is in the process of training to into her personal orbitor. why do i think that?
1) when you asked her out and then said sorry.( that shows you're very passive in nature and she probably think she can mold you to her liking)
2) whenever you do hang out you seem to be only there to pay for her drink and in her fvcked up mind she thinks she is gracing you with her presence and time and you NEED to buy her drink.( not good bro)
3) when you don't follow the group or what she wants to do she punishes you( again not good)

in conclusion the flirt is the treat you get for good behavior
 

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She's using you. Try to fvck her and see what happens.
 

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I agree with everyone that there is absolutely no reason to apologize and I wouldn't do that again. But making a mistake is not a big deal, just carry on as if you hadn't made the mistake. If I even begin to question whether a woman is trying to use me or not I just conduct little tests to find out. I like to test and see what they are willing to give. What are they willing to pay for. Are they willing to do things on my terms. When I say 'things on my terms' I mean, will she come out for my evening of my plans. See if you can get her to pay (she still might if she thinks she can get a greater return). You will know, if you conduct these types of tests. If she comes along for the ride, then she probably likes you. I WOULD NOT simply say no to paying. I would definitely ask her to pay for my drinks too.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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2) whenever you do hang out you seem to be only there to pay for her drink and in her fvcked up mind she thinks she is gracing you with her presence and time and you NEED to buy her drink.( not good bro)

I don't buy her drinks. She gives me the money to buy her "beverages" and then I go into the store and get them for her for certain reasons regarding her age. Furthermore, she always offers to buy me "beverages" whenever I do this for her, but I decline the offer. I'm also certain that she has other people that could perform this "favor" for her.

Update:

Yesterday, I asked her to hang out, outside of the house and she agreed, but said that we should invite the owner of the house to come with us. The owner declined, and she said we should go another time. Later, she came over while I was there and came into town with us and took a nap, then left. She texted me around an hour later and asked me to go with her on an alcohol run. I agreed, and on the way back I told her, "You know, you don't have to be really nice to me for me to buy you alcohol." She said, "I was really nice to you before you started buying me alcohol, and I would be really nice to you if you stopped buying me alcohol. I don't want you to ever think that." So, tonight, the next night, I ignored her. She walked into the house, as I was sitting at the table, and I immediately stood up and left the room. 3-5 minutes later, as I was walking into another room, she followed me, but I left that room as well without saying a word to her. Following that incident, she announced that she had only came to see her "best" friend (who happens to be a male), and that she was pissed that he left (he had left after she had arrived) and she left. Thoughts? Thanks for the feedback, guys!
 

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She's using you for booze runs, period. Next time she asks for alcohol ask her for a blowie first. See what she says. You may get lucky.
 
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Instead of stating the obvious, can we give OP a shot at getting laid?



You did well in her last attempt to try to use you. By walking away, her natural response was to 'pursue' you. In that moment, your best bet would to play coy and bait her a little bit. Something along the lines of - Woah! I'm your supplier of drunkeness! What the HECK is can you get me?

Play stupid and coy, more often than not, you will make her want to offer something in return. Take it from there and run with it.
 
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