"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I was sarging today and met a HB 8....told her to go see a movie with me...she said yeah and followed me....and we were in the movie theatrer....and i was massaging her hand..kino and tried kissing her but failed....many times...ancd thgen she said she had to go to the bathroom...but she left...and i knew she was leaving as sooon as she said it....


I was a little upset at first...but later i was thankful...thankful for another oppurtunity to get stronger....my strengh grows every day...i feel like i have a force 0f energy around me like a tornado.....chinese people call this internal energy or strength......it's the abillity to do somehting that hurts or feels painful over and over again until it feels good.......relax into the bad feeling.......no one can touch me....give me some pain and it gives me pleasure........and actually i love it when a girl rejects or says no...it makes a challenge....ity makes me hard...and it feels like good exercise...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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was there any build up to Kino and the attempted kiss?? Was she giving off any signals? obviously, there was something if you made it to the movie theatre with her but....


EDIT: on below, I see that, you're right, I did miss the point.
 
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yes there was....but u are missing my point.....it felt good because i actually like her...made me feel alive...if we would have had sex it would have been boring after 1 time...
 

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zinc4 said:
chinese people call this internal energy or strength......it's the abillity to do somehting that hurts or feels painful over and over again until it feels good.......relax into the bad feeling.......no one can touch me....give me some pain and it gives me pleasure........and actually i love it when a girl rejects or says no...it makes a challenge....ity makes me hard...and it feels like good exercise...
White people have a name for it too. It's called masochism :D
 

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So many try to eat the steak before it's done... A quick kill carries with it too high a percentage for failure.

Why don't you young bucks walk instead of run like Atom Smasher and hit 100%?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Lesson: Movies are a no-no for an insta-date.

The goal of an instadate (or a first date for that matter) is for you and the girl to get to know each other better.

What was your goal, to get physical with a girl you just met?
 

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I would have left too.
Generally speaking a girl has to feel like she has some sort of connection with a guy before she will be willing to accept physical contact. If the only contact you've had with her is asking her to go to a movie, I'm not surprised she turned it down and left.
Movie dates are a horrid way to get to know someone.
 

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there was no goal...maybe immediate sex...and u obviously don't know what u are talking about rocky...i have pulled insta dates immediate sex before....have one borderline stalking me right now as a matter of fact...

and i didn't feel like getting to know her....i only do that for someone that i really like or someone who has a unique personality and arouses my curiosity.........but u are missing the point....it was better than a point blank rejection because there was some build up to it...it's about liking someone or something and then not caring when u can't get it or they say no to you....and it's about looking at rejection as what it is...nothing...

and pink no offense......never mind i don't want to be mean...
 

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You're weird.

You are a girl on a PUA forum trolling for d$ck......know your rightful place which is below me.......and yes i am weird...but a 1,000 of yous couldn't equal one of me...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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zinc4 said:
You are a girl on a PUA forum trolling for d$ck......know your rightful place which is below me.......and yes i am weird...but a 1,000 of yous couldn't equal one of me...
LOL, good (and true) answer, but she might have been referring to me. I was going to answer precisely the same way then I saw you already did my dirty work for me.
 

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zinc4 said:
You are a girl on a PUA forum trolling for d$ck......know your rightful place which is below me.......and yes i am weird...but a 1,000 of yous couldn't equal one of me...
Wow, hurt your widdle feelings didn't I? ;)
 

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Atom Smasher said:
So many try to eat the steak before it's done... A quick kill carries with it too high a percentage for failure.

Why don't you young bucks walk instead of run like Atom Smasher and hit 100%?
I'm with Smasher here. I don't know why the youngsters are in such a hurry, or why they are so impatient. I think there's some sort of PUA point of pride in being able to get the lay as quickly as possible. There's some sort of validation in being able to bang the girl in the club restroom, or in the alley behind the dumpster. Or in getting the quick makeout. To be able to say they F-closed within 10 minutes of meeting her. Gives them some sort of player cred. But I don't see where this huge rush comes from.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
So many try to eat the steak before it's done... A quick kill carries with it too high a percentage for failure.

Why don't you young bucks walk instead of run like Atom Smasher and hit 100%?
zekko said:
I'm with Smasher here. I don't know why the youngsters are in such a hurry, or why they are so impatient. I think there's some sort of PUA point of pride in being able to get the lay as quickly as possible. There's some sort of validation in being able to bang the girl in the club restroom, or in the alley behind the dumpster. Or in getting the quick makeout. To be able to say they F-closed within 10 minutes of meeting her. Gives them some sort of player cred. But I don't see where this huge rush comes from.
The problem for youngester exists and is a direct conseguences of trying to fix other problems.

Its getting widespread knowledge not only here but even in gyms lockerooms that when a girl doesnt give intimacy pretty soon she is using you and you're ending up in the friendzone.

So what happens?
Well it happens that guys either to seize the water or avoid being seeing as "friends" make a move even if the steak is not done as Atom put it, and the result are girls who were potentially interested to leave.

Im guilty myself of this at the age of 28, I can imagine how hard is for a guy in his late teens or early 20s to gauge it.

So at this point it begin a vicious cycle, guys dont want to be used or listed as "friends" by taking it slow while at the same time girls dont wanna be used as meatholes or put in the fvck dubby cathegory and on purpose take more time.

So if Joe was fine taking Jane out for a date before trying to bang her now he no longer does and if Jane was fine giving Joe a make out at the end of date 1 now on purpose wait for date 2.
So the result is that Joe nexted Jane as uninterested girl and Jane got confirmation about being a tight cvnt as being the best choice.

The result is guys which try even faster than before and girls who try to take even more time than before, you can guess yourself what is the result awfully.

Also we often forget the amount of literature, forum and magazines which do to girls what sosuave does to us...its a vicious cycle of mindfvcking and complicating each other life.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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zinc4 said:
I was sarging today and met a HB 8....told her to go see a movie with me...she said yeah and followed me....and we were in the movie theatrer....and i was massaging her hand..kino and tried kissing her but failed....many times...ancd thgen she said she had to go to the bathroom...but she left...and i knew she was leaving as sooon as she said it....


I was a little upset at first...but later i was thankful...thankful for another oppurtunity to get stronger....my strengh grows every day...i feel like i have a force 0f energy around me like a tornado.....chinese people call this internal energy or strength......it's the abillity to do somehting that hurts or feels painful over and over again until it feels good.......relax into the bad feeling.......no one can touch me....give me some pain and it gives me pleasure........and actually i love it when a girl rejects or says no...it makes a challenge....ity makes me hard...and it feels like good exercise...

This story sounds like youre gaming HB 8 year olds.

I'm Chris Hansen. Why don't you have a seat over there.
 

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it was just one of several rejections for me that day...no big deal.. also scored 2 quality numbers and have dates set up with them...my original point was it's a good thing getting rejected sometimes because success always comes with it..anyone who sarges a lot knows this...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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