"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Well, heres my opinion. The reason that most of these people have found this site, be it through word of mouth or through searching on the internet is due to a particular real or percieved failure with girls or their one special girl. So I dont think that you can say that it is a bad aim that people come here solely to learn how to succeed with girls.
Once they are here, there are quite a few people who become hooked on the idea of self improvement, because they realise that the problem is not with other people but with their perception of themselves. When they have isolated the problem, they then try to remedy it, involving self improvement.
The easiest way for these people to measure how far they have come is in their relations with "the fairer sex" . That is because that was the cause of their wish to better themselves, it may just have been a symptom, but was often the key one that brought them looking for help and is the one that will probably keep the majority the longest.
Their love life or whatever, was the part that they felt was the most useless and the biggest failure in their life, so they use that to judge how they succeed. Is that fair?
I would say yes, but they should also look at whetehr they have become who they want to be, but it is the best external indicator of improvement for them.
As MASTER HOMER said
I do not believe that in this case the two different means, one getting women, the other self improvement which both tend to lead to the same end, a more content and self satisfied person, are mutually exclusive.
Once they are here, there are quite a few people who become hooked on the idea of self improvement, because they realise that the problem is not with other people but with their perception of themselves. When they have isolated the problem, they then try to remedy it, involving self improvement.
The easiest way for these people to measure how far they have come is in their relations with "the fairer sex" . That is because that was the cause of their wish to better themselves, it may just have been a symptom, but was often the key one that brought them looking for help and is the one that will probably keep the majority the longest.
Their love life or whatever, was the part that they felt was the most useless and the biggest failure in their life, so they use that to judge how they succeed. Is that fair?
I would say yes, but they should also look at whetehr they have become who they want to be, but it is the best external indicator of improvement for them.
As MASTER HOMER said
This site is about increasing confidence as well and about the belief in yourself and your justification to other human beings. We are competitive in our lives and in our need to propagate so we need to evolve and adapt adn the best fitted will most liekly be the most successful with women. That means that key life skills are also key skills involved in getting to women.
I do not believe that in this case the two different means, one getting women, the other self improvement which both tend to lead to the same end, a more content and self satisfied person, are mutually exclusive.
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I have been told to "stfu, you woman" "this site is for MEN, get off!" and i know those guys will NEVER get a girlfriend or wife if they have that attitude towards women
That was me, and i was 100% sarcastic....thats why there was a "
" beside it....
and Men have something called masterbation, but its true...women 95% of the time control sex, thats why you have to be very good at this for her to crave it
That was me, and i was 100% sarcastic....thats why there was a "
" beside it....and Men have something called masterbation, but its true...women 95% of the time control sex, thats why you have to be very good at this for her to crave it
MetalFortress
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Re: LoL
That was 30 seconds I'll never get backOriginally posted by Spike_the_cowboy
You sure post alot for someone who hasn't been here long, LuvMyArmyMan. I wonder, did you even bother to read the DJ Bible, or did you ignore that rule as well?
Do you ever leave this board? No, not even for coffee?
Jeez. I use my coffee breaks to post here.
Being that I don't drink coffee, its not a problem for me.
I read the DJ Bible over and over, and read through the message board for years before I even registered for an account here.
But something tells me that you really don't care about this site, or the people here anyways.
What a pity it is to waste ones' time.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The only way we get people coming to this site is because, originally we were "OBSESSED with getting girlfriends" but thanks to some helpful insights we have developed our own independance and freedom which society had taken from us.
I want sex, but i don't need it. In fact, there are hundreds of things i would prefer to have rather then *****, this site has developed within us more focus on other things. The tips and techniques that are on the site are just there to help guys go after it ***** in a HEALTHY, CONTROLLED way.
Sex is not my main priority. Stereotypical males you see on TV has given you the idea that we are, this isn't true.
You using vibrators is the equivilant of us wanking. I can go with out sex also.
To conclude, a female perception is the last thing we need because it is after all, a female perception that got us in the mess in the first place. Also, this site has improved my life ALOT, don't pretend that we HAVE To have sex, we don't need it. Once i realised that, sex came to me.
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well ya know what, sammo, it was my OBSERVATION that a majority of guys here are still obsessed with women. You're an exception to it. Most of the tips i've read don't condone healthy, safe ways to pursue sexual relationships. The mass majority of guys on this site, IMO, want and need sex so bad they post questions like "am i gonna get laid on prom night, or how can i make it happen?" "how can i get this girl" blah blah blah and the list goes ON AND ON. And i dont doubt that sex isnt your main prioroty, but me OBSERVING THIS SITE, not from watching TV (since i dont eve own one) gives me the impression that men just want sex.
and in regards to the comment i made about women not necessarily giving a **** about sex, well I cannot deny that we think about it and want it just as much as guys do but most women do not go blatantly out of their ways to get it. We'd much rather have a meaningful relationship. There are exceptions, of course.
I believe this site would not even exist if masturbation was all guys needed to feel satisfied, but they STILL will ALWAYS want physical sex. what i was saying about women, is that its not our priority, but a relationship is. and you know what? My boyfriend (soon to be fiance) is twice the men you are. Just because I can say I can go without sex and not need it does not mean he isnt the "kind of man guys here are". thats bullsh1t. You here have NO idea what our sex life was like so dont even begin to judge. Plus, you dont have any female sexual organs so you cant say what a vibrator feels like. You cant make the assumption that women can go for long peroids without sex because you arent a woman. Nor can I make the assumption that men need sex to feel satisfied, but in surfing on this site, honestly. It almost makes men seem so pathetic. Its like most of the guys here want a relationship only so he can have sex with the girl, then dump her and move on. I pity boys like that.
and ya know what spike? you're a fvcking [email protected]e an idiot that will never, ever get a woman, no matter how many times you read the DJ Bible because youre just an @ss who has nothing better to do than insult people. and I do have a life, FYI. I go to school, study, party, work-out, hang with friends, and i dont have time to start petty little arguements on the internet like yourself. I just have better things to do than to read the DJ Bible over and over again. It seems to me YOU'RE wasting your time because you will never have a woman who actually cares about you.
"To conclude, a female perception is the last thing we need because it is after all, a female perception that got us in the mess in the first place."
You are a very unbalanced person. In order to be a complete and balanced person, you need to have both the masculine AND feminine psyche ruling your mind. if you're too masculine, you will fail in relationships because you cannot cope with having a female by your side. You will never be able to relate to her because you haven't accepted your feminine psyche. And women cannot be too feminine for the same reason. You have to accept and retain the other sex's perceptions and ideas in order to be a healthy, balanced person or you will fail, there is no denying it. If you want proof, read Surfacing by Margaret Atwood. and i'd suggest cliff notes, it gets a little confusing at the end.
But honestly, you can all try a little harder and not be so damn C0CKY.
and in regards to the comment i made about women not necessarily giving a **** about sex, well I cannot deny that we think about it and want it just as much as guys do but most women do not go blatantly out of their ways to get it. We'd much rather have a meaningful relationship. There are exceptions, of course.
I believe this site would not even exist if masturbation was all guys needed to feel satisfied, but they STILL will ALWAYS want physical sex. what i was saying about women, is that its not our priority, but a relationship is. and you know what? My boyfriend (soon to be fiance) is twice the men you are. Just because I can say I can go without sex and not need it does not mean he isnt the "kind of man guys here are". thats bullsh1t. You here have NO idea what our sex life was like so dont even begin to judge. Plus, you dont have any female sexual organs so you cant say what a vibrator feels like. You cant make the assumption that women can go for long peroids without sex because you arent a woman. Nor can I make the assumption that men need sex to feel satisfied, but in surfing on this site, honestly. It almost makes men seem so pathetic. Its like most of the guys here want a relationship only so he can have sex with the girl, then dump her and move on. I pity boys like that.
and ya know what spike? you're a fvcking [email protected]e an idiot that will never, ever get a woman, no matter how many times you read the DJ Bible because youre just an @ss who has nothing better to do than insult people. and I do have a life, FYI. I go to school, study, party, work-out, hang with friends, and i dont have time to start petty little arguements on the internet like yourself. I just have better things to do than to read the DJ Bible over and over again. It seems to me YOU'RE wasting your time because you will never have a woman who actually cares about you.
"To conclude, a female perception is the last thing we need because it is after all, a female perception that got us in the mess in the first place."
You are a very unbalanced person. In order to be a complete and balanced person, you need to have both the masculine AND feminine psyche ruling your mind. if you're too masculine, you will fail in relationships because you cannot cope with having a female by your side. You will never be able to relate to her because you haven't accepted your feminine psyche. And women cannot be too feminine for the same reason. You have to accept and retain the other sex's perceptions and ideas in order to be a healthy, balanced person or you will fail, there is no denying it. If you want proof, read Surfacing by Margaret Atwood. and i'd suggest cliff notes, it gets a little confusing at the end.
But honestly, you can all try a little harder and not be so damn C0CKY.
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To the female poster who originally started this thread:
Please... just shut up. You dont know half of the guys on this board.
Peace
Please... just shut up. You dont know half of the guys on this board.
Peacewow, lemme start this off by saying this. You're only looking at whats in front of your face.
In paintball and driving thats known as tunnel vision. You see whats in front of you and you're totally disregarding anything else. That gets you shot, and in an accident.
You have come to the false conclusion that because you do not believe yourself to be controlled by sex, you are somehow better than these guys that post. Guess what honeybun, you ARE controlled by sex, and not just you EVERYONE. You think because you're not going to have sex before youre married that you arent controlled by it? You WOULDNT be in a relationship if you werent controlled by sex. It is all just natures way of continuing the cycle of life.
Instead of looking at what other people are doing, look at what youre doing first.
Spike_the_cowboy
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FYI
If you did not have a v@gina, your boyfriends would not like you as much.
Simple as that.
If you did not have a v@gina, your boyfriends would not like you as much.
Simple as that.
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
RawkinKaoticStyle
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I just want to say
thanks you LuvMyArmyMan
for it is people like you which let the soul shine from this board, all the replys from the DJs combined with you comming from your angle lets people see things from a different perspective. Its like we wouldent know day if there wasent a night.
thanks you LuvMyArmyMan
for it is people like you which let the soul shine from this board, all the replys from the DJs combined with you comming from your angle lets people see things from a different perspective. Its like we wouldent know day if there wasent a night.
LuvMyArmyMAn, you are being controlled by sex, if you say you are not goign to have sex before marraige. Becasue it is preventing you from doing what you want when you want. You are so scared of it that you are procrastinating, surely you should do it when it comes naturally. You saying i am goign to lose my viriginity on my wedding night is the same as some boys saying I am going to lose it on my prom night. You have both set a fixed date for it, do it when you want to, not just because it is the 30th April.
This site PREACHES that people STOP being obsessed with women, i am definately not the only exception to it here, there are many others. I have used the tips here in a healthy way to attain women, i speak from personal experience, where are you coming from? So men need sex do they, thats why this site's number one rule is to get back your independance and get your own backbone, were helping people. We can't help everyone.
This changes nothing.
This comment got to me, don't make that assumption. What makes you think your fiance is a better man then me or any other man on this site? Because he doesn't want sex? You had a turn of ASSUMING things, not let me have my turn. I believe you are dominant over your fiance, he wants sex out of the relationship, every man does, its not the only thing he wants but its one of them. He is a big walking vagina. it appears as if he's not getting everything he wants out of the relationship because he has no balls to be dominant, i see the relationship falling apart as you get bored and he will get hung up on you because he is insecure. & don't make assumptions about me, about your fiance being a 'better man' then me, i am boxing state champion, i'm excelling in my academic studies, i have an extremely healthy social life, my gf is a HB9.5 model who i have been dating for near on 8 months and has been a very fulfilling relationship. But i don't think im better then him. we are just people. The assumption that your fiance is BETTER then us was totally based on the fact that he hasn't got his pecker wet yet.
So, if you don't assume, neither will i. Break down the word ASSUME. ASS U ME : It makes an ass out of you and me.e
i'm not one of those people but i dont pity them. If their having fun, go for it! I don't think your views should stop them doing what they enjoy.
Once again, your assuming. He may have had more attractive (emotionally and physically) gf's then you. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean other chicks wont.
I don't have time to read that, it sounds like bull **** to me. I am a man and this phyche **** is not necessary to have a 'fulfilling relationship'. I have a fulfilling relationship going on 8 months, it's great theres no problems with it at all. I have got all this without the need to understanding different phyche's i'll take the natural route thank you. Besides, lets pretend your little theory is correct, i have being getting a females perception my WHOLE LIFE from society, this site is one of few outlets of male perception.
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Wow... so this is what happens when I try to be nice...
With all of this in mind... I am not attempting to insult you in any way, I just believe (and yes... I pretty much do this to all of the members) that it is quite important to think before you speak. Moreover... because you are an elder on this forum (being 18) it is important that you set examples... calling Spike a douche bag was a rather immature measure... wouldn't we agree?
Ciao...
Gentlemen of the jury... what I have on display here is an example of societal bull**** that is forced fed to us on a daily basis. Whatever planet that you live on at the moment sugar... I strongly suggest that you move back to Earth (the air is much better). Whoever told you that women do not blantantly do not go out of their way for sex (or sexual advances) lied to you. Have you forgotten all of the indulgences of the typical woman? Getting the hair done, the nails done, the tube tops, the skirts, the shoes, the makeup (especially the makeup)? And you say women do not go out of there way... let us think about that for a second. You would rather have a meaningful relationship... is that to say that men would prefer not? Moreover... interestingly enough I have met more men than women both in our age range (18-24) have been more interested in meaningful relationships... interesting.
While I will not doubt that your Army Man is quite an extraordinary human being... I am hard pressed to say that he is twice the man of a board that consist of over eight thousand men. Granted... he may be an extraordinary person... but that is a tall order for any human being.
To say that you can go... without sex and not need it is a flat out insult to humankind. We all require sexual stimulation in some shape or form on a fairly constant basis. Not only is this how humans work... it is how the general animal population (with the exclusion of asexual creatures) works. You cannot do without it... if you could... there would be no reason for you to have a meaningful relationship. Moreover, I do not care what anyone says... a meaningful relationship includes enjoyable sexual activity.
With all of this in mind... I am not attempting to insult you in any way, I just believe (and yes... I pretty much do this to all of the members) that it is quite important to think before you speak. Moreover... because you are an elder on this forum (being 18) it is important that you set examples... calling Spike a douche bag was a rather immature measure... wouldn't we agree?
Ciao...
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
LuvMyArmyMan
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If you bothered to read any of my other posts you'd know i'm not a virgin. If you really want to know, i've slept with 10 guys, had a threesome and anal sex. I want to wait with my boyfriend (even though we've had sex before) because it'll be more special on our wedding night.
and the thing about needing sex, i'm not an idiot. But wanting to go out and "fvck 3 b1tches a day" as one guy emphasized on this board, is way too much. Casual sex, with the use of contraception, is useless in the biological standpoint. If youre trying to prevent conception, then sex without the want to create new life is pointless (in the biological standpoint). It is for mere pleasure. What i was saying is that most women can go without physical sex for pleasure. And some people dont even want to procreate.
and my fiance is twice the man that everyone here is, is because i think of him in that way. YOU might not think that, but I love him, and to me, he will always outshine ANY man (that is, besides my father and brother, obviously)
And, Sammo, I know what this site is about. I said i observed MANY guys only coming here for sex tips. At least, thats only what i see. You are a hypocrite, for telling me not to assume things when you are doing the exact same thing towards me. You ASSUME that my boyfriend doesnt want sex but that isnt his priority in this relationship. its hard for BOTH of us to wait, because, well we are in love and it does seem the natural thing to do.
But you know what? we're both in college. I want to get my Master's Degree and study abroad in Italy for a year. He's going to Kosovo (hes being activated) for 18 months at the end of this year. Part of the reason why we're abstining is because if I got pregnant, all MY plans would be shot to sh1t. He'd STILL go to Kosovo, and the last thing we both want is to have a baby right now. Yes, I am on birth control pills but its not 100%. there is still that tiny chance they will fail. And abstainance is the ONLY 100% way we wont be getting married early and having a baby. And yeah, that may seem like i'm the dominant one, but it would be mainly ME who gets ****ed over. I'd be not going to school, pregnant, and possibly with a husband overseas for 18 months. Pretty sucky, huh?
so from a girls standpoint, he is twice the man you are because he's willing to see how I look at things, and take me into the picture, and not constantly think about sex because he too, doenst want to end up in that situation.
Yeah, I am assuming because its what i'm observing from you all. Rarely have I heard anything positive about women on this site. Its just about the physical feeling, never emotional. Its almost as if most of you disregard the intense emotional part of sex. You just want to "bag" women to satisfy your craving.
And listen to me about being balanced. If you ever want to have that kid of connection with a spouse you need to understand her psyche. Yes, there is a psyche, Sammo, and you need to accept the feminine side in your brain, or you'll just be an emotionless, sex-driven, uncaring blob of a human being. Same with women. If they cannot accept the masculine side, they'll be too overly emotional,
too caring, and so feminine its sickening.
And guys, I'll think what I want, it isnt hurting you is it? Its not like I'm potential "game", am I?
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Wow that's hot.
LuvMyArmyMan
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Well everyone has a past. and frankly, the bf doesnt want to know about all of it. would you want to know what your gf did with other guys in the past?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.