"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Initiations of the Courtship Ritual

Sym Killingworth

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Fellow young men:

Having lurked for a considerable amount of time, I am well acquainted with the website. However, I have failed for the most part to incorporate them into daily life. Therefore I hope to approach a number of women and initiate them in conversation with the goal of increasing my social ability. I anticipate many failures in the short term, but in the long term I expect great success, for I intend to create the life that I want.

My ultimate goal is a long-term relationship - a relationship to last a lifetime. I know that in this respect I differ among my brothers, who only wish to obtain the periodic use of a vagina and nothing more. I am not disinclined toward the satisfaction of said vagina, but as a life goal it is worthless.

To obtain the object of my desire, I will keep a journal here that will record my approaches. It is hoped that with the encouragement and prodding of my fellow forum-members that I will, in addition to approaching women regularly, become a master of the social art, which is vital not only in the pursuit of a mate but also in public life.

Having nothing to lose, I am not opposed to experimenting. Therefore I will readily accept any suggestions to improve my approach. I hope not only to positively impact my own life, but also to positively impact the lives of others who have been deprived of the affection of the opposite sex through that most cursed of villains, fear. Fear of the approach, fear of awkwardness, fear of rejection, fears of jeers and the laughter of your peers.

I am willing to fail utterly in order to succeed totally.

It starts tomorrow.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Sym Killingworth

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First approach (happened some time ago, haven't had time to post):

I was sitting in class wondering whether or not to approach (the answer, of course, is always yes), but most importantly how. I did not know this girl, but I knew her name, and she was in my class. So as we were leaving, I decided to pose the question to her.

Killingworth: Listen, Sherry.

Sherry: *looks up* (she was on her cell phone, ****!) What?

Killingworth: Yeah, I was thinking we could go to a seafood restaurant. We can eat lobster together.

Sherry: Sorry. I have a boyfriend.

Killingworth: Oh, is that him on the phone?

Sherry: No, it's ...

Killingworth: Well, you're going to have to dump him if you want to go out with me!

Sherry: *starts laughing*

Then I walk off, swearing loudly for everyone to hear. She giggles some more.
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This was my first approach ever. It pretty much sucked. There was no rapport, no nothing. But she had a boyfriend, so it was a no-go from the start.

I'll write up the second approach later ...
 

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Second approach, girl in class I had known for only a few days. Decided that Ihop would be a fun venue. This was such a terrible approach that i don't even want to talk about it. The whole thing was awkward. I slipped her a piece of paper to write her number down, and she just gave it back and said, "No, that's okay." I took it too seriously and got fed up.

Oh well, things are changing rapidly. And now I'd like to change this up a bit.

Instead of me doing stupid-ass approaches and talking to girls, I would like you all to make some suggestions. What should I say, what should I do? It can be anything; I'm not afraid of looking like an idiot. If you want a line tested, just ask me to do it for you.

There are a number of girls to choose from, some of whom I should have talked to long ago. I'll make a list of potential ladies and then I'll ask you all what you think of it. Later!
 

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Sym, why dont you start taking approaches outside the classroom? Chances are you will have to deal with girls who reject you in class for a long time. Outside the classroom there is no social consequence.

What are some things you do outside of school? What are your hobbies? When you do stuff outside of school, you'll be with girls that you have more in common with, and its a much more relaxed, social atmosphere. I would work on that more than just doing cold approaches in the classroom.

Have fun with it man, this is not work; this is your life. Do you want to live empiracally, always following other people's guidelines?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Yookiwooki:

I have taken Pook's "Perfect is boring!" post to heart. One thing now is that I really don't care about being the best. In fact, I want to fail. Perhaps I should have named this post "Initiations to Failure". Besides, I am a senior now and have little more than a month to go. I can say whatever I want.

My hobbies are very solitary in nature. But this does not mean I don't know how to have fun. In fact, I think I made a bad impression with my first post, sounding too business-like and serious. I think dating is just a big joke, and I intend to play along with it.

So I'm going to ask for suggestions from my fellow forumers. Anything that they think could be applied to my situation. Fun things they think I could say and whatnot. Approaches that they think should be tested but are too scared to try out (I have done the "Apocalypse" opener before).

Basically I want this to be an approach journal - an interactive approach journal. People will tell me what to do, what sort of approach, I will put my own unique spin on it and put it up on the forum for everyone to see.

Now, I shall be returning to school tomorrow. There, I shall make them wet with natural vaginal lubrication, in preparation for the entrance of my massive penis.
 

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haha im sorry, i guess your sense of humor kinda went over my head. its easy to lose things in the translation of forums you know? :)

you've got a great attitude about it, and I certainly wont let this thread go to waste haha.


heres a suggestion off the top of my head:
Approach random girls and pretend youve known them forever, see how far you can take it. Just call them a random name and keep up the role play until you get bored. See if you can get any funny responses or if you can get them to play along with it.
 
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