Indifference in action

[zinc4]

I have been playing around on POF lately just for fun and seeing how bad i can get away with treating some of them...i have cancelled numerous dates lately because i have been busy and trying to focus on my on my on and off again relationship and i have noticed it creates powerful emotions in most of them....practically willing to do anything to see me...

Conversation with HB7.5 via text tonight who i still haven't met...but will shortly here...

Me: Hey, can't make it tomorrow...something came up

Her: awwww i really wanted to see you...this is the 2nd time you have stood me up

Me: stood up sounds pretty negative..it's more like cancelling because of an emergency

Her: well...i am free tonight..what are you doing.....

Me: laying in my bed...but i am tired what time could you be here by

Her: 11...is that too late?...i don't have to work tomorrow...i could meet you at the %%% train station

Me: damn that is late...i dunno

Her: come on you always stand me up..this is your chance to redeem yourself

Me: well...the thing is my apartment is really dirty...you might have to help me clean it when you come

Her: no problem..i love cleaning stuff

Me: and you have to wear something sexy that shows your legs off...no jeans and t-shirt crap...

Her: laughing...ok i will i promise...you are so bad

Me: yeah whatever

Her: so you are just laying in your bed

Me: yeah..bet you wish you were laying with me right now

Her: hahahaha....i do....just promise not to stand me up again...

Me: ok...i won't but only if you send another pic that shows off your legs better...your last pic was too far away..

Her: ok i will at 9 when i get off...will u send me another pic too

Me: no...i am handsome as hell and you know this..you saw my other pics...i am too busy to be sending pics right now...laying in my bed and all is tough at times..i can't find a good TV program right now...it's so annoying when nothing good is on

Her: hahahahah you are so bad...but funny...ok..i will send you another pic as soon as i get off work here at 9 and will be at the &&&& train station at 11....

Me: later

Her:

 

[Vidrio]

 

[zinc4]

update: came over and looked better than pics and had a perfect ass...very cute Taiwanese chick...i have been getting lucky in that department lately...told me she had just broken up with ex and was sad...so i was obvious rebound

We walked in the park and went back to my place to drink some beer...after 20 mins of talking/watching tv...she rejected kiss three times and i picked her up and slammed her on my bed ...and this time she reciprocated and jammed her tongue wildly down my throat...making out and i pulled her pants off and sex of course ensued....i tried to get her to go home later but she said it was too late..i said i only like sleeping by myself unless i really know the person..she acted angry i said whatever you can sleep here...

we woke up yesterday and i said f&ck i don't feel like going to work today...let's go to this vietnamese resturaunt and drink some beer...we got there and the place is so cool...my favorite resturaunt here where i live...drunk vietnamese people after their third shifts are finished in the morning sinking karaoke and eating...and great food and cool music if you like vietnamese/cantonese music...and me and her had some really good and interesting convo..ate some great food and downed a lot of beer...she can actually drink beer..bonus points there...

She kept throwing test after test at me about her ex to make me jealous...i ignored and told her the only way to properly end a relationship is no contact...i also told her about how my house when growing up was haunted and told her a lot of ghost stories and other stuff and i told her how i practice qigong along with my kungfu and it gets me as buzzed/high as smoking weed...she said i was one of strangest people she had ever met...i took it as a compliment....at that moment the waitress walked by and told her in Chinese that she thought i was handsome...the waitress was this cute Vietamense chick...and the waitress ended up giving me a free beer...this aroused some jealousy in her i could tell....at one point she said you should just do be with the waitress...i said not that bad of an idea grinning....

after another beer...i took her back to my place heavily buzzed and made her watch braveheart with me...noting like watching braveherat with a few cold ones...also played some youtube music videos and ate her out while dancing to the music before braveheart...she wanted a funny movie but i told her this was the greatest movie ever..

started playing with her ass and kissing it during the movie and eating her out...as usual lot's of phony resistance at first...but she moaned hardcore after a few mins of it and i told her how delicious she was and i would go inside and build a tent inside her puss^ if i could...she started moaning and panting like crazy when i said this while oragasming...and we ended up having sex and i had to fake an orgasm to cut it short...i just wasn't in the mood for extreme banging..

later after another movie...we were talking and she called me a fake...because my stories are so extreme...i told her to apologize or to leave immediately and that no one calls me a fake...she put on her clothes like she was leaving and then layed next to me and told me i misunderstood her and that she called me a freak as in freaky...maybe she really did..i dunno was kind of drunk..she then started kissing me and slipped off her pants and thong while dancing a little and stoop up above my face and sat down on my chest humping it before literally f&cking my face in 69 position and started sucking me off...

i really liked how she went about that...later before she left she told me i gave her the craziest sex of her life...i told her not surprising...and she called me an arrogant american...i said no i am just arrogant...she started kissing me....so i let her crash again and she left for work this morning...i got to say...i actually liked talking with her had a unique personality..she will be messaging me later not sure if i will go for a round 2 or not at this point...but it will be hard to resist thinking of how she sat on me in 69 like that one time...like she gave me a little strip tease and f&cked my chest before moving to my face....

things to note from this...in her drunken state she opened up to me and admitted even if a guy is really hot she only likes him if she can sense that he likes her less than she likes him and she wished she could be attracted to a nice guy who really loved her and wouldn't cheat on her but only playboys turn her on...and told me how she dated a nice guy for 4 years and never had sex with him not even one time and told me how he was crying when she dumped him...and wow..this sums up the case with all women you have to have a lower IL than her and willing to cut her at any moment for her to truly remain interested in you...i commended her for being honest...and ate her out again to reward her

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

she was right about one thing...you are strange LOL. Good story though. Nice work.

 

[zinc4]

yeah, when women call me strange, i take it as they mean i am different than any guy they have ever met and wish they could spend the rest of their lives with me

 

[Zarky]

That's some pretty extreme push-pull there. I approve.

 

[yougottaknow90]

Great stuff, zinc.

out of curiosity - what's your ethnicity and which country are you living in atm?

wondering if you're white since the women love white dudes in asian countries.

 

[zinc4]

I'm white...living in Taiwan....at the night clubs it's not too difficult here with Taiwanese girls because you do have ones that gravitate toward foreigners..but in general i think white and especially black girls girls are easier to deal with than Taiwanese chicks, but i strike gold every once in a while......there are some Phillipinos that work here though that are very easy...the problem with Taiwanese girls is they think their vaginas are on a silver platter even more so than chicks in the states because of an extreme number of beta Taiwanese guys who will literally do anything for them...so you have to do a lot of push/pull with the better looking ones to knock them down a few pegs...

example...a really cute Taiwanese girl at a club i went to the other night acted like she was going to go home with me...we went with her friends to eat together and she ended up declining going home....she sent me a request on facebook because we had exchanged email and phone numbers and i rejected it just because...so a few days later i get another request from her and i accept...fast forward 3 weeks later to today and she sends me a message asking to come to my apartment tonight...i declined because i am still hungover from hanging out with the chick in my OP...so now i have rejected her several times but will have her over here sometime next week when i have some quality free time....she is ready to be putty in my hands...

update on girl in the OP: just as predicted she messaged me saying..hey you, wake up ...(i was sleeping when she left and refused to walk her to the door when she left because i didn't want to be fully woken up)......

 

[visions]

Great stuff, zinc.

out of curiosity - what's your ethnicity and which country are you living in atm?

wondering if you're white since the women love white dudes in asian countries.

my suspicions confirmed.

push-pull is almost always necessary for the most attractive women, but taking it to the level zinc4 did gave me pause.

 

[zinc4]

it's necessary and lately i just don't care and do it for the fun of it...honestly, I have an easier time gaming hot girls in the states than i do here....most of the girls who go for foreigners here are the average looking ones and yes they are very easy but who wants average chicks? not me.......very low percentage of the really hot ones are even interested in foreigners in the first place

And the hot ones have a bigger princess complex than your average hot chick in the states and are mostly looking for brad pitt clones or a rich guy to marry... tougher to form rapport with simply by being direct...they only like you if you ignore them at times and treat them like an annoying idiot..if you are direct with them then they are like next...true with most hot women in general...but with Taiwanese girls here it's even more like that....that's why usually i mess around with the phillipinos here instead because they are so simple to deal with and to the point...but the Taiwanese chicks are a lot hotter on average and they are helping me up my game...

 

[floydb25]

Sounds about right... This kind of behavior is what a LOT of hot girls respond to, and throw themselves at. But the girls aren't that much better themselves, and don't really have anything to offer. Their personalities are pretty much ****. They're all about the thrills, lust, excitement, drama, chaos, unpredictability, "challenge", and only good for sex. This is the bad boy lifestyle they seek after - only to whine and complain - when they've been treated like **** all along, AND purposely avoid the decent guys in favor of it. It's all them. This is what they seek after, have to offer, and complain about. Nothing more to them. Dumb and shallow. NG's need to stop sympathizing with, and spilling their heart out to these hoes.

Sounds like you have it down pretty good. I used to do the same thing, but wasn't assertive or sexual enough. Still, they responded to similar treatment, and weren't really worth a damn. Them responding to this treatment just makes you respect them less, not take them seriously, and treat them worse... Which they like.

But dealing with this type too often can make you bitter / jaded. It's definitely a shallow lifestyle that most people grow tired of.

 

[zinc4]

Sounds about right... This kind of behavior is what a LOT of hot girls respond to, and throw themselves at. But the girls aren't that much better themselves, and don't really have anything to offer. Their personalities are pretty much ****. They're all about the thrills, lust, excitement, drama, chaos, unpredictability, "challenge", and only good for sex. This is the bad boy lifestyle they seek after - only to whine and complain - when they've been treated like **** all along, AND purposely avoid the decent guys in favor of it. It's all them. This is what they seek after, have to offer, and complain about. Nothing more to them. Dumb and shallow. NG's need to stop sympathizing with, and spilling their heart out to these hoes.

Sounds like you have it down pretty good. I used to do the same thing, but wasn't assertive or sexual enough. Still, they responded to similar treatment, and weren't really worth a damn. Them responding to this treatment just makes you respect them less, not take them seriously, and treat them worse... Which they like.

But dealing with this type too often can make you bitter / jaded. It's definitely a shallow lifestyle that most people grow tired of.

Yup..this sums it up nicely..the worst you treat them the more they gravitate toward you as long as you are also projecting strong sexuality and toss them bones here and there...

Update: She called last night..

Me: oh....it's you again

Her: what...what do you want

Me: you tell me...you are the one who called

Her: yeah...i just wanted to talk to you..what are you doing

Me: going to bed

Her: oh...i see...what are you doing Friday

Me: I am busy...work and kungfu practice

Her: Oh i see...remember i was telling you i don't know how to swim..i was wondering if you can help me sometime

Me: i'll think about it ok

Her: laughing ok ok...i miss you

Me; yeah me too as long as you aren't too annoying acting that is

Her: laughing..oh come on you are the disgusting one

Me: disgusting as you wish you had my **** deep inside you right now

Her: laughing...you are so bad

Me: anyways...i have to get to sleep..have to wake up early for kungfu and stuff..but i'll message you when i have some free time

Her: ok...good night

Me: try not to dream about me too much tonight...it's annoying to think about

Her: hahahaha ok ok i won't...goodnight

Me: bye

i wake up this morning and she had already sent an early morning text saying....good morning kungfu boy

She is now officially my sex slave.....

 

[Hydrak]

Me: oh....it's you again

Her: what...what do you want

Me: you tell me...you are the one who called

This gave me a major chuckle. :crackup:

Really well done, reading stories like this makes you up your game.

 

[zinc4]

thanks

she just offered to buy me dinner if i can meet her tonight..but i have to work in the morning....now she is sending counter offers...

 

[visions]

thanks

she just offered to buy me dinner if i can meet her tonight..but i have to work in the morning....now she is sending counter offers...

if you don't mind, post a pic of her

 

[JoeMarron]

Me: disgusting as you wish you had my **** deep inside you right now

Haha I never wanted to use lines like this because I thought it came across as being too try hard. Apparently it doesn't matter though if you have the skills to back it up. Do you thing her going crazy over you is more because of your attitude or your skills in bed?

 

[zinc4]

Haha I never wanted to use lines like this because I thought it came across as being too try hard. Apparently it doesn't matter though if you have the skills to back it up. Do you thing her going crazy over you is more because of your attitude or your skills in bed?

Probably both...if you suck in bed, you probably couldn't get by with this...and when i was eating her out one time that night she was begging me to f%ck her by my command....so i was kind of referring to that instance...

The only pics i have are on my cellphone an i don't have a link cable to hook up to my computer or email capabillity....and i really don't like posting pics of people without consent, but i will try and download one of the pof pics of her..later

 

[zinc4]

just wanted to update this.....i have hung out with her about 3 times now and she has now cut off all communication with her ex and says she wants to start seriously dating me and says there is something special about me...no surprise there.......and she gets upset when i am busy on the weekends and all jealous acting...i can only hang out with her on Mondays and Tuesdays because on the weekends i am busy out trying to meet new chicks....hahaha...and this past weekend i met a potentially great one....but actually i feel bad because i know i am going to end up hurting her...she is clearly looking for more and i am just looking for sex and hanging out with her...so far she is down with casual but i know her real plan...she pretty much spilled her guts to me and told me the last time she was over here and she was drunk..

update on FB stalker who i met in the train station a few weeks back: i stopped hanging out with her but she is still sending these weird messages on FB like we are in a relationship...and she still messages my family members from time to time...my sister recently called her creepy and my sister is one of the nicest people ever

 

[floydb25]

This is a classic case of actions vs words, and seeking after that which is harmful (and knowing it). She wants to get serious and is bothered by this and that - AS you're just using her for sex, or whatever. If you switched frames, she'd get bored of you like the other guy. This is why you ALWAYS follow their actions and interest level as it relates to whatever you're doing. They hate you, think you're a jerk, can't figure you out, become bothered and annoyed, think you're a player, and say they WANT the opposite - as they're pursuing you harder, trying to get you to commit, focusing on you, etc... That's exactly what they respond to.

Never believe or assume ****, and don't sympathize with these hoes. Guys who fail act all friendly, listen to their problems, comfort them, etc in these situations... There's plenty of threads about it. Then they talk about guys like you who swoop in and do everything that actually attracts them - and they get ****. But they still hold onto false hope, believe their "not ready" excuses, wait around for them to be "ready", and all that nonsense.

It's really as simple as you described. Either you're hitting the right switches, and they're crazy about you; easy sex, or they're not interested, and you're wasting time. They can also go from one to the next quickly if you mess up, and act like a nice guy.

A lot of these hoes are simply shallow, slutty, dumb, etc.

 

[Packers2010]

great thread man! been reading it drinking coffee and listening to CCR. a good Friday morning.