"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Increased female attraction to men in relationships

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That is nothing new to us. But I was a little surprised that a study at university would find such a big jump. Kind of like women would be more likely to say in a study they would want a man that's single but their real life actions would prove different. I guess it supports the tactic of giving women the impression that you are wanted by and involved with other women.

A 2009 study by Melissa Burkley and Jessica Parker of Oklahoma State University found that 59% of women tested were interested in pursuing a relationship with an "ideal" single man (who was, unknown to the women, fictitious).[11] When they believed the "ideal" man already was in a romantic relationship, 90% of the women were interested in a romantic relationship.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17619-its-true-all-the-taken-men-are-best.html
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Stagger Lee said:
That is nothing new to us. But I was a little surprised that a study at university would find such a big jump. Kind of like women would be more likely to say in a study they would want a man that's single but their real life actions would prove different. I guess it supports the tactic of giving women the impression that you are wanted by and involved with other women.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17619-its-true-all-the-taken-men-are-best.html
Its crazy but its true.
 

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Dear StaggerLee,
Something is not right here.Still very interesting,Thanks.
 

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"Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful loser. - Pook

Hypergamy knows no loyalty.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Rollo Tomassi said:
"Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful loser. - Pook

Hypergamy knows no loyalty.
But this study took it one further. The same man became more attractive just because he was in a relationship. So maybe it's not always even entirely a matter of the man objectively being a loser or about the man. You could almost change it to, "Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful winner." lol. (Faithful being the key word because how can a pea brain woman know he's a winner unless she knows other women want him, right?)

Of course the women really don't want to share the succesful man. What they really want is to beat out all the other women for a successful man. It is all about women's ego, pride and appearing high status to society, especially to other women. It's more about how they appear to others than about the man himself, so there is no loyalty that's true. Women are quiet selfish and stuck in an adolescences phase.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
You could almost change it to, "Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful winner." lol.
Yeah, weird. I agree with Scaramouche, something is screwy here.
Remember, these guys are supposed to be their "ideal" man. Yet nearly half of the women weren't interested unless the guy was taken. Like you said, 59 to 90% is a huge jump statistically.

I think that women must view a guy who is unattached as some kind of loser. Think how women date - they always have a firm grasp on the next branch before letting go of the first one. They are rarely without options, or a partner. For a guy to be alone, they must be thinking "what the heck is wrong with this creepy guy that no woman will want him?"/
 

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zekko said:
I think that women must view a guy who is unattached as some kind of loser. Think how women date - they always have a firm grasp on the next branch before letting go of the first one.VERY TRUE LOL :rockon: They are rarely without options, or a partner. For a guy to be alone, they must be thinking "what the heck is wrong with this creepy guy that no woman will want him?"/
SO HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT THIS,
WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE HIGHER VALUE AS SINGLE GUYS, ANY TIPS HERE? I HAVE 0 GIRLFRIENDS RIGHT NOW I NEED TO KEEP MY HEAD UP AND DMHV BUT IT IS HARD LIKE THIS
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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caporal said:
SO HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT THIS,
WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE HIGHER VALUE AS SINGLE GUYS, ANY TIPS HERE? I HAVE 0 GIRLFRIENDS RIGHT NOW I NEED TO KEEP MY HEAD UP AND DMHV BUT IT IS HARD LIKE THIS
I know it sounds like a "To get a job you have to have experience, to get experience you have to get a job" type of thing. But I wouldn't get too discouraged, it's only one study. All they had to go on was a picture and description, so you can still exhibit good body language, confidence, behaviors, personality, etc. And 59% of the girls were willing to give the guy a chance, so it's not all bad.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
But this study took it one further. The same man became more attractive just because he was in a relationship. So maybe it's not always even entirely a matter of the man objectively being a loser or about the man. You could almost change it to, "Women would rather share a successful man than be saddled with a faithful winner." lol. (Faithful being the key word because how can a pea brain woman know he's a winner unless she knows other women want him, right?)

Of course the women really don't want to share the succesful man. What they really want is to beat out all the other women for a successful man. It is all about women's ego, pride and appearing high status to society, especially to other women. It's more about how they appear to others than about the man himself, so there is no loyalty that's true. Women are quiet selfish and stuck in an adolescences phase.
Bang on. This applies to 90% of women these days. Cellphone, I wish all of them would just simultaneously hit a light pole and die sometimes.

As an aside: No, I'm not angry, that the one I've fvcked for 4 weeks straight does not want me to come over. Our lines are still open, to be sure, but her "boyfriend" is Always with her now (I can't be, ya know, some people have to do a little thing called "work?"). He's cornering the market on her, however, there's always next week, but it's not looking too good for me and this hot fvck of a 24 yr old mom of 2.

Well, I'm tryin, but when I get home from work on a Friday at 8:40 PM it's kinda hard to get anything going. Tomorrow looks fine, but who the fvck knows if I'm gonna get flaked on, or if drama will flare up again with one I've fvcked a long time ago back in November. I've resumed contact with her as of a couple of weeks ago. She's bi-sexual red head, but kinda retarded I think because she takes everything I fvckin say the wrong way, as if I'm being "rude" or hurting her feelings, when what I say (may be blunt) but is completely innocent. Then there are others, but a hot one tonight couldn't do anything - I'll never talk to her as5 again, I can tell no interest. Tomorrow might be pvssy-filled. Who knows?
 
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